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[Kaalia]

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic...eswalkers/week4
The link shows how to use these planeswalkers.

Discuss, please.

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[DjJoe]

I updated this topic with the final two planeswalkers.

[Design]

Didn't they make more for the new set?

[Kaalia]

Didn't they make more for the new set?[/b]

Yeah, we're just too lazy to edit them in. I'll do it, it's just that nobody comes in here save me, Joe, Beaver and like 2 other people.

[Design]

They made a different Ajani?

Doesn't seem as good as Ajani Goldmane

[Kaalia]

Chandra is probably the only worse PW in T2 right now.

[Design]

I love chandra.

she's in my burn deck.

[DjJoe]

Chandra is probably the only worse PW in T2 right now.[/b]

In T2???

No, Chandra is one of the better as a planeswalker. Her first two abilities deal directly with your opponent and his/her field, and her final one is large too.

Tezzeret is currently the worst, as he is seeing NO PLAY whatsoever in Standard. He's trying to make appearences in Affinity decks, but otherwise he's garbage. Esper decks can even use him.

Garruk- played in Elves and nearly all green decks.
Jace- played in a number of blue decks.
Ajani G- sideboard for Kithkin
Liliana- played in some Mono-black control decks, because she is another tutor or consistent disruption.
Ajani V-One of the better planeswalkers because he stalls and then disrupts. He also has built in Lightning Helix for kicks.
Sarkhon Vol- Clear Advantages for your side of the field.
Elspeth- Currently at $25. Value means nothing? Well she's got two +abilities, giving you board presence OR a beefy creature. He final abilitity doesn't win games, but it helps if it ever 'needs' to go off...

[Kaalia]

Chandra is the worst because she sees ZERO play in ANY format, at least to my knowledge. I give you the point on Tezzeret though, I forgot about him.

My order from best to worst right now is:

Garruk
Elspeth
Sarkhan
Goldmane/Jace/Liliana
Vengeant
Tezzeret/Chandra

Only reason Sarkhan is below Elspeth is because there aren't any decks for him at the moment. Elspeth is just ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as Garruk. Goldmane/Jace/Liliana are decent, but not great. The only use Vengeant really has is +1 then Lightning Helix twice. Tezzeret and Chandra see no play at all really.

[Design]

My list is more like

Liliana
Chandra
Goldmane
Jace
Garruk
Sharkhan
Elspeth
Vageant
Tezzeret

[Toxic`]

Chandra is amazing. She can be game breaking, along with Ajani, both versions, the newer one more so.

[Kaalia]

I'm actually suprised that you guys see Planeswalkers last more than half a turn. Around here, their faces get beaten in/removed/burned before they even make it to the next players end phase.

Then again, everyone and their mother plays O-ring here.

[Evil_Beaver]

My planeswalker list:

Garruk Wildspeaker
Sarkhan Vol
Ajani Goldmane
Jace Beleren
Elspeth, Knight Errant
Ajani Vengeant
Liliana Vess
Chandraa Nalaar
Tezzeret the Seeker



But really, even the bad ones are good cards. Tezzeret has some sick abilities, just his mana cost hurts him.

[Aenema`]

I might pick up a Black deck just for 3-4 Liliana Vess.

[DjJoe]

I'm actually suprised that you guys see Planeswalkers last more than half a turn. Around here, their faces get beaten in/removed/burned before they even make it to the next players end phase.

Then again, everyone and their mother plays O-ring here.[/b]

That's why Elspeth is currently the best one. you play Elspeth, and before your opponent gets a chance to respond to her coming into play, you take priority and do one of her abilities. Even if your opponent is playing heavy Burn AND removal to get rid of her ASAP, a 1/1 token and cards in their hand, or a Angel's Mercy and cards in their hand are both almost ALWAYS worth it.

Chandra at least CAN be used in decks, she just isn't. Tezzeret isn't even viable at the moment, because you don't have any good Esper decks period, and Affinity has better options now.

If you wanted my order:

Elspeth
Ajani V
Garruk
Sarkhan (He's just not good yet)
Chandra
Jace
Liliana
Ajani G
Tezzeret

And I only put Garruk so low because he rarely gets usefulness- he dies before overrun, and what do you have by that? minus a card in the hand and two tapped lands as a result of his first ability succeeding, or a 3/3 beast, which Green can do MUCH better on at 4 mana.

[Evil_Beaver]

Sarkhan (He's just not good yet)[/b]

Gonna have to disagree there, man. Myself and a teammate have been testing him in the RG haste-based aggro and him coming down on turn 4 and stealing an opponents Finks or something is just brutal. Also, the other player is FORCED to attack Sarkhan (or tap down mana on their turn to remove him or whatever) on his next turn or he's just gonna get bashed by his own dude again, which leaves them open to another attack.

If he has any knock against him, it's that he really only fits in Aggro decks. But yeah, he's pretty sick.

[Kaalia]

I'm gonna remake my list.

Elspeth
Sarkhan
Goldmane
Garruk
Jace
Vengeant
Liliana
Chandraa
Tezzeret

[DjJoe]

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Sarkhan (He's just not good yet)[/b]

Gonna have to disagree there, man. Myself and a teammate have been testing him in the RG haste-based aggro and him coming down on turn 4 and stealing an opponents Finks or something is just brutal. Also, the other player is FORCED to attack Sarkhan (or tap down mana on their turn to remove him or whatever) on his next turn or he's just gonna get bashed by his own dude again, which leaves them open to another attack.

If he has any knock against him, it's that he really only fits in Aggro decks. But yeah, he's pretty sick.
[/b]

Nah, I agree he's good in a Sarkhon Vol deck. Or Aggro. But in general he's bad. He gives something +1/+1 and Haste, which on Turn 4 means you're only getting a minor single pump or making your token (In what deck?) or 0 casting cost creature (Ornithopter) have haste...Otherwise- he's a Threaten.

His Dragon Summoning ability is garbage- most players that allow that to happen can deal with the dragons. Others, like Burn or Aggro, will have Vol dead the next turn and still be able to recover from the waste of an attack.

[Evil_Beaver]

He really shines with that threaten ability. It's SOOO good.


And yeah, his ultimate is pretty stupid. It can be good against control decks (like, if you've been using his buff then if they Wrath you make the dragons) but it pretty much won't ever be used.

[DjJoe]

He really shines with that threaten ability. It's SOOO good.


And yeah, his ultimate is pretty stupid. It can be good against control decks (like, if you've been using his buff then if they Wrath you make the dragons) but it pretty much won't ever be used.[/b]

You do realize Threaten will do the exact same thing for the exact same cost at the exact same speed, but without the Green?