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#21 Achilles

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 07:01 AM

Heat finally won too.


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#22 Black Hayato

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 08:01 AM

Can we just fast forward to playoffs plz?

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 12:42 PM

No.

Yao or Amare as top center?
I say Yao.

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 12:46 PM

Yao rite now b/c amare has been hurt lately but amare and yao are both great choices...

I choose Kwame Brown!!!!!!

J/K ima laker boy. obv

#25 Achilles

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 05:50 PM

Orlando is actually decent this year.


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#26 Apollo

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 05:54 PM

No.

Yao or Amare as top center?
I say Yao.[/b]


Dwight Howard and Tim Duncan are both better(Center-Forwards)

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 05:55 PM

hmm
Tim Duncan is the best obviously, but he's not as tall.
Amare is pretty damn tall, as is Yao, but Amare is also quite athletic.


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#28 Wizard

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 07:22 PM

Asking who the best center is, is like asking who's the best heavyweight boxer right now.

#29 Achilles

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 06:11 PM

Dwayne Wade is back =]


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#30 The Messenger

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 06:21 PM

NBA Finals:
Clippers vs Celtics

MVP:
KG

#31 Achilles

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 06:41 PM

NBA Finals:
Suns vs Celtics

MVP:
KG[/b]


Better =]


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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:32 PM

Mavs vs. Pistons

Boston is a fair-weather team if I've ever seen one. They have a grace period right now. Keep in mind, they lack depth and have yet to face an elite western team.

If any of the big 3 get hurt, its downhill. Allen is fragile.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 08:33 PM

Exactly.

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#34 Apollo

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 09:50 PM

You guys still don't get it wink.gif

Yes, the celts are built around the big 3..but if Allen went down, they wouldn't fall apart. The only way they would fall apart is if Garnett went down. Everyone made it out to be such a big deal that we got the big 3 who average 20 points per game during their career. But really, it's the defense that is winning them games...with garnett anchoting them.

They went to 8-0 tonight and are holding teams to only 87 ppg(1st in league), while they are scoring 104 ppg. Thats a differential of +17(also 1st in the league by almost 10 points).

And you say they haven't played any good teams, but they beat the wizards, the Raptors(a team that some thought may still take their division), The Nuggest(in very convincing fashion), the Nets twice, and the Miami Heat(with Wade)

You say they havent played any good western conference teams, but they have beaten some very good eastern conference teams and to not put them in your "finals" prediction would be dumb.

I say bring on the Western Conference

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:32 PM

Of course the Celtics rely on KG. I simply stated that Allen is the most likely player to get hurt over the course of the season. KG is as solid as a rock, the dude is an Iron Man when it comes to injury.

Anyway, the Eastern Conference just cannot compare to the Western Conference. A very good team in the East can usually be considered a lower tier team in the West. Their schedule thus far has been quite favorable. When Boston takes down the Texas Triangle and the Phoenix Suns in a dominating fashion let me know.

Oh, and its also funny how you say that not having them in a Finals prediction is dumb. That's funny to me because of the heavy minutes the Celtic's Big 3 have already logged. If they keep this up, I don't see them getting past the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 07:42 AM

Oh, and its also funny how you say that not having them in a Finals prediction is dumb. That's funny to me because of the heavy minutes the Celtic's Big 3 have already logged. If they keep this up, I don't see them getting past the Eastern Conference Finals.[/b]


Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce play roughly 38 mpg, the same as Kobe, Dirk Nowitzki, Shawn Marion, Richard Hamilton, and Tayshaun Prince

and Ray Allen does play too many minutes at 40 mpg, but so does Caron Butler, Gilbert Arenas, and Antawn Jamison(the Wizards big 3)

I could list more, but I'm tired of looking up stats. The point is, it's not uncommon for good players to play all these minutes. They were playing this many minutes before they were even in Boston because they were the only ones who could carry the team

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 08:07 AM

Point to note though, they almost lost to the heat, and they were playing a squad with a wade not at his full potential. If Wade had made the jumper, which he almost did, they would have been 7-1. If the Heat can outlast them, then what's stopping amazing teams like the Spurs from beating them.


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Posted 17 November 2007 - 08:33 AM

Chef you only stated one player who is even in the same situation as the Celtics; Kobe. All the other teams you listed have some sort of depth; ESPECIALLY Dallas.

The main reason Dirk is even logging in so many minutes right now is because our backups are still learning the system.

And about your statement comparing Allen to the Wizards; the Wizards have not been playing well at all thus far so that point is null.

The real point is, players that log that many minutes over the course of 82 games will not be in their best condition during the playoffs. They'll still be superstars, thats a given, but with the age of the Celtics and their lack of depth an injury late in the season spells doom during the playoffs.

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 08:34 AM

Point to note though, they almost lost to the heat, and they were playing a squad with a wade not at his full potential. If Wade had made the jumper, which he almost did, they would have been 7-1. If the Heat can outlast them, then what's stopping amazing teams like the Spurs from beating them.[/b]


Is winning by 1 point worse than losing? I mean, good teams like Detroit are losing badly to the Lakers and Trailblazers, but no one says anything about that. Those 2 teams aren't any better than what the Celtics have faced. Yeah, it was a good close rough-it-out kind of game yesterday, but they pulled out a scrappy win, which isn't common for star-studded teams

Chef you only stated one player who is even in the same situation as the Celtics; Kobe. All the other teams you listed have some sort of depth; ESPECIALLY Dallas.

The main reason Dirk is even logging in so many minutes right now is because our backups are still learning the system.

And about your statement comparing Allen to the Wizards; the Wizards have not been playing well at all thus far so that point is null.

The real point is, players that log that many minutes over the course of 82 games will not be in their best condition during the playoffs. They'll still be superstars, thats a given, but with the age of the Celtics and their lack of depth an injury late in the season spells doom during the playoffs.[/b]



oy, the Celtics DO have depth too. Eddie House just threw up 19 the other night and Tony Allen is a good replacement for Rondo OR Allen OR Pierce(or James Posey).

and yeah, the Wizards haven't been playing great so far...but before the season, a lot of people picked them for playoff contention.

And yeah, the Mavs have a bench. But guess what, Dirk is on pace to book pretty much exactly as many minutes as he did LAST year. So whats the excuse there? Whats the point in having depth if your going to play your star all the time anyways?

Obviously teams are going to play their best players for the bulk of the game, thats how you win. The Mavs do it, and they certainly contend. As do the Piston...it's the same situation for almost every good team.

And sorry about the double post, i hadn't seen his post

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 09:25 AM

I guarantee you Dirk will see reduced minutes in the second half of the regular season.

The Mavs are trying to break in their new backups. (I.E. Bass, Ju-Ho) Until they start to gel, Dirk will have to consume some minutes.

And on a side note, Portland has been ruining a lot of games lately. That young team is good.

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