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[Horus003]

1- Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1- Dark Armed Dragon

3- Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands
3- Armageddon Knight
2- Djinn Releaser of Rituals
2- Djinn Presider of Rituals
2- Necro Gardna
2- Relinquished
1- Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind
1- Plaguespreader Zombie
1- Sangan

3- Preparation of Rites
2- Burial from a Different Dimension
2- My Body As A Shield
2- Black Illusion Ritual
2- Allure of Darkness
1- Mystical Space Typhoon
1- Gold Sarcophagus
1- Lightning Vortex
1- Brain Control
1- Heavy Storm

2- Bottomless Trap Hole
1- Call of the Haunted
1- Solemn Judgment
1- Torrential Tribute
1- Mirror Force

Edited by Horus003, 24 November 2009 - 04:19 PM.

[Horus003]

Bump.

[Nomad]

I know that deck space will continue to be an issue, but what about Sangan, Lava Golem, Gold Sarcophagus, Call of the Haunted & Interdimensional Matter Transporter?

Sangan seems like another great choice, as he can search for just about anything in this deck including Relinquished, Manju & Armageddon Knight, depending on the situation. Along with that, the fact that you'll be special summoning a good amount, so its not like he'll be wasting your summon or set for nothing. Oh yeah, and having a mandatory trigger effect can't hurt when you're running tuners & rituals (if you wanna tribute from the field anyway).

Lava Golem has always been iffy for me, since hes realistically only good in this type of build if you've got Relinquished ready to eat him, and don't need to normal summon Manju that turn in order to perform the ritual summon. However, considering the added consistency that these new support cards can provide, hes looking more & more viable. Its also worth noting that even if your opponent negates or responds to his summon, the 2 monsters tributed for his cost are gone & still gone. :)

Not sure how much explanation Gold Sarco really needs, as it can search for any card without caring about using your summon. I mean, while the specific searchers are great, I've still found it to help combo decks because of the ability to get any missing piece, not simply one of the needed ingredients. Its just one of those, get something restricted but often intended right now, or get anything I want in 2 turns type of things, where a combo deck may or may not lean toward.

I get that you'll be able to block some attacks & save way by getting your ritual summon done quickly, but Call of the Haunted can still special summon Relinquished after the fact of being thwarted, which good players will still be able to do. Along with this, you can reuse Plaguespreader & Armageddon Knight's effects, along with getting another monster to add to your field rush. Again, its one of those really solid cards that's hard for me to exclude, even in a deck that's got its own methods of special summoning & chainability.

Lastly, I'd like to bring up the Interdimensional Matter Transporter. Yeah, it doesn't actually generate advantage or negate anything, but it does put a face-up monster out of harms way for a turn, which in many cases can elude more things than standard negators would do. However, while the fact that he'll drop any monster he's holding & be returned empty is good when used on your opponent's turn, its not really something you'd like to happen on your turn, since he'll just end being attacked anyway. Along with that, any conditions applied by the Djinns should be removed, as Relinquished would cease to be face-up on the field.

[Blankauctions]

I'm not so sure about 3 Preps, they seem like they could sometimes be horrible topdecks (not that Black Illusion couldn't be, but Preps require more to activate)

Maybe slim to 2?

I think Lava Golem would slow that build down.

+ Sangan or Spirit Reaper, in case you need stall time.


Also consider cards like The Transmigration Prophecy, Call of the Haunted, etc.

Edited by Blankauctions, 22 November 2009 - 08:10 PM.

[Nomad]

Dammit, he must find room for Spirit Reaper, at least in the side.

Love Spirit Reaper.

[Horus003]

I did have Sangan in here, but I cut him at the last minute when I realized I had forgotten Dark Armed Dragon =D. He does grab a lot of important stuff, and we can't forget TT abuse, either. Need to find a spot for him, don't really want to go over 40.

Lava Golem is meh in the main, but I'd definitely consider side decking him against fast-swarming decks like Blackwings or LS, thanks for reminding me.

Forgot about Gold Sarcs as well, lol. Two would be nice, but I haven't got the room right now.

Call was also forgotten, damn I threw this thing together fast. Have to add that.

Really skeptical on the Interdimensional Matter Transporters, to be honest. I feel that My Bodies are enough coverage as is. Plus room is tight, so I'll have to pass.

In addition I'm strongly considering adding two or even three PWWBs, since I tend to draw into the Fiends and Necro Gardnas far more often than I'd like, with no way to get rid of them (aside from the obvious Set or use as Ritual food). So that's...

1- Sangan
1- Spirit Reaper
2- Gold Sarcophagus
1- Call of the Haunted
2- Phoenix Wing Wind Blast

... that I'd like to add, and so far I only have:

1- Djinn Releaser of Rituals (Find myself drawing it a lot, should be able to make do with two, especially considering triple Army)
1- Preparation for Rites (Needs more testing to be sure)
1- Relinquished (He's so easily searchable that it tempts me to drop one)
1- Black Illusion Ritual (Same as above, just a bit less so)
1- Burial from a Different Dimension (Needs more testing)
1- Solemn Judgment (Needs more testing)

... As ideas to drop. Need some more help here, guys. =\

[Blankauctions]

Lols, you could Try something like The Trickey ... works with those Necros.

Maybe try:

-1 Relinq
-1 Black illusion
-1 Preparation
+ Sangan
+ Call
+ PWWB

Go from there

Edited by Lord British Space Fighter, 24 November 2009 - 01:00 PM.

[Horus003]

I'd rather not use The Tricky, he doesn't really do anything for me besides dumping cards in my hand, and isn't even an Allure target. Wing Blast on the other hand is chainable and gets rid of threats, which I like in a control deck such as this. Also I've decided to drop the third copy of Relinquished and Black Illusion Ritual, but keep the third Preparation of Rites and add a Sangan. This way I can search out my copies of Relinquished and BIR quickly, while cutting down on wasted space (thinning my deck in the process of play). Call is being added, as well as a Vortex (which solves my dead hand problem while given me valuable removal options). Adding a single Gold Sarc to make 41, also.

- 1 Djinn Releaser of Rituals
- 1 Relinquished
- 1 Black Illusion Ritual
+1 Sangan
+1 Call of the Haunted
+1 Lightning Vortex
+1 Gold Sarcophagus

Going to try that for now and see what happens.

Edited by Horus003, 24 November 2009 - 04:19 PM.

[Horus003]

Bump.

[Horus003]

Bump.

[AngelicChaos0]

If Preparation of Rites did the opposite (Search the spell, recover the monster), I'd be all for triplicates. However, seeing as that isn't the card effect, drop one for that second Gold Sarcophagus.

[Horus003]

AngelicChaos0, on 27 November 2009 - 04:06 AM, said:

If Preparation of Rites did the opposite (Search the spell, recover the monster), I'd be all for triplicates. However, seeing as that isn't the card effect, drop one for that second Gold Sarcophagus.

I'll test it, thanks.

[Horus003]

Bump.