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[Dragonzealot]

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE! AND WHERE DID MY LAST POST GO!

(Just saying that This > Anything ETC has to offer atm.)

[Kaalia]

Sora Kitano, on 10 March 2010 - 07:23 PM, said:

Any reason to have the two Paradigms doubled up? I mean I can see why you would since you can power right into another physical combo, but I dont see the point of having 2 copies of RA and Delta Atk.

That's the exploit. Switching right as you finish a combo fills the ATB gauge faster than waiting does. Those 2 particular setups(RA and Diversity) happen to be the best PDs for this point in the game. Diversity allows you to keep your damage output relatively high while doing some minor healing and RA has the highest damage output of any PD for the Light/Hope/Fang party (At least as far as I know). Also, if Fang has launch (Which she freaking better), whatever enemy you're concentrated on won't touch the ground more than 2-3 times during the entire stagger period(provided the enemy can be launched).

Edited by Kirin, 11 March 2010 - 01:19 AM.

[Tsunayoshi]

Kirin, on 11 March 2010 - 01:18 AM, said:

That's the exploit. Switching right as you finish a combo fills the ATB gauge faster than waiting does. Those 2 particular setups(RA and Diversity) happen to be the best PDs for this point in the game. Diversity allows you to keep your damage output relatively high while doing some minor healing and RA has the highest damage output of any PD for the Light/Hope/Fang party (At least as far as I know). Also, if Fang has launch (Which she freaking better), whatever enemy you're concentrated on won't touch the ground more than 2-3 times during the entire stagger period(provided the enemy can be launched).

Might give that a shot.

Gotta deal with the big grape you I got from a retry. Got an Orion on a preempt, couldnt get a heal to save my life and now I cant jump the grapeer again because its already set up

EDIT: Third time jumping him and clearing the corps guys out first. They got orangegot speed to be able to overwhelm that fast.

Edited by Sora Kitano, 11 March 2010 - 01:49 AM.

[Kaalia]

I'm discouraged.


Come home, play against boss like this:

- This guy has 220000 HP. Most of my hits are dealing around 900-1000 damage.
- This dude is freaking impossible to stagger.
- Every so often, this boss will guard against attacks, reducing damage to about 2 or 3. No 0's, literally 2 or 3 damage. This lasts about 10-15 seconds. You get around 30 seconds in between each guard period.
- In addition, he also occasionally heals himself for around 2000 HP.
- Before you stagger him the first time, he will change form, This halves all damage to himself for the rest of the battle. At the same time, he will do some kind of massive damage attack that can't be avoided and basically halves everyone's HP. He will proceed to perform this attack about every minute or so.
- Immediately afterward, he will cast Protect, Shell, Haste, and Bravery on himself. About 10 seconds after that, he will do a 7 or 8 hit combo on whoever he feels like. If that person isn't a sentinel and isn't fully healed, it will almost assuredly KO him/her.
- At around 1/4 remaining HP on the dude, he will cast Doom on your party leader. Doom cannot be gotten rid of. It took me about 45 minutes the first time I got that far. Doom told me I had about 2 minutes to finish the battle. I cried.

Wat do?

Edited by Kirin, 11 March 2010 - 09:42 AM.

[Tsunayoshi]

Kirin, on 11 March 2010 - 09:40 AM, said:

I'm discouraged.


Come home, play against boss like this:

- This guy has 220000 HP. Most of my hits are dealing around 900-1000 damage.
- This dude is freaking impossible to stagger.
- Every so often, this boss will guard against attacks, reducing damage to about 2 or 3. No 0's, literally 2 or 3 damage. This lasts about 10-15 seconds. You get around 30 seconds in between each guard period.
- In addition, he also occasionally heals himself for around 2000 HP.
- Before you stagger him the first time, he will change form, This halves all damage to himself for the rest of the battle. At the same time, he will do some kind of massive damage attack that can't be avoided and basically halves everyone's HP. He will proceed to perform this attack about every minute or so.
- Immediately afterward, he will cast Protect, Shell, Haste, and Bravery on himself. About 10 seconds after that, he will do a 7 or 8 hit combo on whoever he feels like. If that person isn't a sentinel and isn't fully healed, it will almost assuredly KO him/her.
- At around 1/4 remaining HP on the dude, he will cast Doom on your party leader. Doom cannot be gotten rid of. It took me about 45 minutes the first time I got that far. Doom told me I had about 2 minutes to finish the battle. I cried.

Wat do?

I know who you are talking about. I wont say for the sake of spoilers, but from what the book says, try a controlled juggle after Fang launches him so he cant slip into Guard mode on you which will also allow you to pour on the hate and damage when he cant fight back. This is assuming that you are fighting against the boss in chapter 10.

[Kaalia]

Small problem. In the 6 times I've tried to beat him, I have never staggered him even once. The chain gauge just goes up too slowly.

[Tsunayoshi]

Kirin, on 11 March 2010 - 10:10 AM, said:

Small problem. In the 6 times I've tried to beat him, I have never staggered him even once. The chain gauge just goes up too slowly.

Ok, grape spoilers. I assume you are talking about Cid in which case it is possible. I just really hope that you dont have to have intermediate weapons to deal with him because its pretty grapeing costly to buy good exp items for upgrades

[Mikhail]

You could use spoiler tags.

I just got the game and I must say that the disc art is hideous.

[Tsunayoshi]

Savior, on 11 March 2010 - 12:44 PM, said:

You could use spoiler tags.

Eh. Its a recurring theme of late, just trying to clarify I could pass on some help to Ki.

[Kaalia]

I tried posting this earlier, but stupid database error kept denying me.

Spoiler

In Chapter 9, the large room with the extending ramps is a great place to farm CP and Incentive chips(Which sell for 2500 gil a piece), and there's a save point at both ends of the room, so there's not much traveling to do to upgrade weapons/sell chips/save. One run from top to bottom will get you approximately 2500-3000 CP and 4-7 incentive chips.

[Trinidad]

Spoiler

Doesn't help much when end-game some items cost like 60,000 and it takes around 6-8k to move from 1 crystal stat point to another.
I bet it helps right then and there though so goood find.

[Tsunayoshi]

Kirin, on 11 March 2010 - 01:33 PM, said:

I tried posting this earlier, but stupid database error kept denying me.

Spoiler

In Chapter 9, the large room with the extending ramps is a great place to farm CP and Incentive chips(Which sell for 2500 gil a piece), and there's a save point at both ends of the room, so there's not much traveling to do to upgrade weapons/sell chips/save. One run from top to bottom will get you approximately 2500-3000 CP and 4-7 incentive chips.

I plan on doing some exploiting of the areas of good CP and gil so I can start working on 3 of the 6 finals I had planned to work on.

[Dragonzealot]

Sora... DONT BE POSTING grapeING SPOILERS IN MY GOD DAMN THREAD IF YOU ARENT USING THE grapeING TAGS! /rage.

I hate that plum. EVEN IF ITS A BOSS! /moarrage.

[Mikhail]

I'm still in the beginning but do they honestly expect me to keep up with all this plot lingo?

[Kaalia]

Savior, on 11 March 2010 - 04:52 PM, said:

I'm still in the beginning but do they honestly expect me to keep up with all this plot lingo?

Yeah, the plot takes a while to straighten itself out.

I love how this is the first FF in quite some time where the plot doesn't completely bore me half to death.

Edited by Kirin, 11 March 2010 - 04:59 PM.

[Tsunayoshi]

Yeah.... I cant really say I like the fact that it takes so long to get a party together, especially when you have some tough fights that would still be a challenge even for a full team.

[Kaalia]

I'm so freaking annoyed with this boss that I'm not sure if I want to pick up the controller just to grind some more. I absolutely despise grinding. Stupid difficulty hikes. Is a normal difficulty curve really so grapeing much to ask for?

Edited by Kirin, 11 March 2010 - 05:44 PM.

[Mikhail]

The storyline is beginning to make sense. This game is pretty sweet, this is probably my favorite Final Fantasy battle system.

[Mr.Etcetera]

So, > or < than X?

[Tsunayoshi]

I havent played X and I would say 13 has it beat.