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[Mikhail]

Borderline confirmed rumors are saying that Nintendo will reveal their next console at this year's E3. Code-named "Project Cafe," the system will be much more powerful than both the PS3 and 360. It's clear that Nintendo is swaying away from the casual market and aiming once again for the hardcore. Do you think Nintendo has lost its validity in the hardcore market, or will they reclaim their former glory?

Keep in mind that Nintendo hasn't made a new IP since Pikmin. Are the HD versions of Zelda, Metroid, and Mario still worth it to you?

[Delx]

I heard nintendo is working on a new IP involving water, but not sure if that was for Wii ii [lol]

isn't the controller the thing with a screen?

[Vaati]

Delx, on 23 April 2011 - 07:22 PM, said:

I heard nintendo is working on a new IP involving water, but not sure if that was for Wii ii [lol]

isn't the controller the thing with a screen?

I think you're talking about Fluidity.

Rumor is the controller has a screen. Some say it's 1080p, other say it's 3D.

[Tsunayoshi]

I have my doubts about Nintendo being credible as a company as a whole as long as they continue to condone shovelware.

I am hoping that this does do better than the Wii in regards to getting in more of the hardcores. Most of the game line up I had some interest in was mostly just silly casual stuff I never missed when I ditched my Wii.

[Mikhail]

Shovel-ware really isn't that big of a deal if there is a strong line-up of quality titles to go with it. Nintendo can continue to endorse kid's titles, and movie tie-ins while simultaneously releasing impressive titles. The Wii's fault was the balance between quality and shovel-ware, it came to a point where only a handful of respectable titles would reach the platform yearly.

In my opinion, Nintendo has no choice but to cater to the hardcore. The majority of Wii owners bought the console for Wii Sports, and when a new higher priced Nintendo product comes around, your casual consumer isn't going to shell out three to four-hundred dollars because he/she reminisced about a single weekend of fun. The public is tired of buying DS iterations, and the weak 3DS sales display just that. I expect the same to happen with this Wii sequel. Also, controllers with HD screens already indicate the heavy price factor. I'll make a prediction, the controller will be around one-hundred dollars, console excluded.

Edited by Mikhail, 23 April 2011 - 11:44 PM.

[Delx]

is it just me or are nintendo controllers always ridiculous

[Tsunayoshi]

Mikhail, on 23 April 2011 - 10:40 PM, said:

Shovel-ware really isn't that big of a deal if there is a strong line-up of quality titles to go with it. Nintendo can continue to endorse kid's titles, and movie tie-ins while simultaneously releasing impressive titles. The Wii's fault was the balance between quality and shovel-ware, it came to a point where only a handful of respectable titles would reach the platform yearly.

In my opinion, Nintendo has no choice but to cater to the hardcore. The majority of Wii owners bought the console for Wii Sports, and when a new higher priced Nintendo product comes around, your casual consumer isn't going to shell out three to four-hundred dollars because he/she reminisced about a single weekend of fun. The public is tired of buying DS iterations, and the weak 3DS sales display just that. I expect the same to happen with this Wii sequel. Also, controllers with HD screens already indicate the heavy price factor. I'll make a prediction, the controller will be around one-hundred dollars, console excluded.

The DS is the real victim of shovelware as just looking at a Gamestop wall proves Nintendo's lack of standards as to what they would allow to be published on their systems is something that is hurting them severely. The Wii had its own fair share of this problem but it was hardly in the same proportions to my knowledge. As it stands right now, I see any attempt to try and be the first launch for a new gen as a failure as long as they dont try to reinstate their Seal of Approval level of quality that they required for game releases in the past.

I could see this putting them in the same bad state that Sony is in right now when it comes to the severe loss they will take on putting out an console, especially if they want it to try and overpower the 360 and PS3 in tech specs. Considering how even I agree on the controller being 100+bucks and the system itself being a 300-400 dollar deal on its own, this could end up being the Dreamcast of the modern generation.

[Sheik_the_Geek]

Controller has been confirmed as having a 6.2 inch screen dual analog sticks and a camera built into. Yes, you heard right...a CAMERA BUILT INTO IT. All info can be found on Kotaku. This info is constant across the board, and is coming straight from the developers who already have dev kits of the next system.

http://kotaku.com/#!...-the-wii-remote

Ive been following this like a hawk ever since the first leak.

http://kotaku.com/#!...r-of-our-dreams


Controller mock up design.



IGN also does some Q&A
http://wii.ign.com/a.../1163116p1.html


A quote from Miyamoto himself:

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"Yes, I have read rumours about Café. I want to say it's normal. You know, for Nintendo, as with the other platform holders, our job is to create new hardware. We think it takes five years to do interesting R&D. So, I confess there isn't smoke without fire. We always build consoles. You'll never see some of them. But you don't have to trust all the stuff you read." - Shigeru Miyamoto

Supposed "leaked" image of the actual system. Developers are saying its fake, but it could just be another mockup design or even what a stripped down version of the console might look like. (aka dev kit version)

[Mr.Etcetera]

After much thought, a touch controller sounds awful. Either your attention is divided between two too far apart screens or... it's just touch? which is bad to me with the perspective shifts but I guess PC types would love that plum

Honestly just give me fun games. If you need crazy controll schemes to do that, ok, but Portal blew me away with two sticks and 3 buttons.

[Mikhail]

You guys are the worst.

[Razzler]

Mikhail, on 23 April 2011 - 07:07 PM, said:

Borderline confirmed rumors are saying that Nintendo will reveal their next console at this year's E3. Code-named "Project Cafe," the system will be much more powerful than both the PS3 and 360. It's clear that Nintendo is swaying away from the casual market and aiming once again for the hardcore. Do you think Nintendo has lost its validity in the hardcore market, or will they reclaim their former glory?

Keep in mind that Nintendo hasn't made a new IP since Pikmin. Are the HD versions of Zelda, Metroid, and Mario still worth it to you?

I don't really see how these rumours are confirmed, considering how easy it is to fake screenshots and show 'Dev Kits' of a new console in this day and age. I mean what's to say that the pictures shown are actually a Wii dev kit or some other console photoshopped into a powerpoint slide with plumty lighting and a blur filter over the entire thing?

Seriously, why do we still get web cam quality images of stuff like this, when everyone and their mother has a smartphone?!

I will say, however, that I'm not opposed to a new console from Nintendo, but I do believe that we are being very unrealistic about what we will actually get features-wise. Screen based controllers are kind of pointless since Nintendo could just integrate 3DS/DS compatibility into the system if there was the need. I don't believe that we will see a more powerful system than the PS3/360, but I believe that it will be on par with those systems.

Also, Nintendo can't completely rely on the 'hardcore' market anymore, the Gamecube had a great selection of 'hardcore' games, but that market had abandoned Nintendo in the N64 era when the Playstation arrived. The loyalists are still around, but they can't sustain an entirely new console and Nintendo don't have the man power or publisher/developer support to ensure that a supply of hardcore games go to both the 3DS and their new console.

[Mr.Etcetera]

Making (a lottttttttttttttt of) money off a plumty console has never happened before though.

-Real Consoles and 1st place money makers-
NES
SNES
N64/(PS1?)
PS2
Xbox360

And then Wiiiii what? They put nothing into it and made DRILLIONS (millions * x). Can you do that Gizmondo?

It's like Ps3 makes moolah they break even, the game makers eek out another cool game w/last game's sales they worked tirelessly for.

But Wii is an empty cardboard box and they have drillions off of one man making wii carnival waggle.

They are rich and refreshed AND grape US ALL IT'D BE A PS4 MOON LASER BUT STILL NO GAMES AND ONLY PERIPHERALS A DIASTERRRRR AGAINNNNNN

i'm a nintendo fanboy btw

Edited by Mr.Etcetera, 24 April 2011 - 06:38 AM.

[Mikhail]

I'll do decent replies to most of these tomorrow, but I'm just posting this to say that the console is now officially confirmed. I don't see them admitting to the reveal of a new console if the rumors had no legitimacy.

http://wii.ign.com/a.../1163764p1.html

[Vaati]

http://i.imgur.com/UGYzL.jpg

Is that really the controller?

[Razzler]

Vaati, on 25 April 2011 - 03:38 AM, said:

http://i.imgur.com/UGYzL.jpg

Is that really the controller?

I highly doubt it, looks like something the chinese would manufacture and sell as a knock off console tbh.

[Ice King]

How silly

[DKMagicianGirl]

Vaati, on 25 April 2011 - 03:38 AM, said:

http://i.imgur.com/UGYzL.jpg

Is that really the controller?

I hope not. That thing looks horrid.

[Sheik_the_Geek]

The mockup design I posted looks better.

[Mikhail]

Virtually no actual software was shown, but give me a Zelda of that quality and I'll buy your damn system.

[Knuckles™]

Mikhail, on 07 June 2011 - 12:20 PM, said:

Virtually no actual software was shown, but give me a Zelda of that quality and I'll buy your damn system.

Nintendo better not have any extremely difficult or frustrating games on that console. Breaking the controller could cost an arm and a leg now. lol