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[Shadow]

This thread really illustrates who plays YGO for high stakes and who doesn't.

[DKMagicianGirl]

His deck can use some work. He was basically playing the way he wants to play, disregarding what your opponent may have and won that way.

He won't get many victories like that.

I know that isn't the kind of build I would be using. I'm still dumbstuck by the fact he only used 1 DDWL. I would think at least 2 is mandatory.

[Tyrant]

DKMagicianGirl, on 22 November 2011 - 07:28 AM, said:

His deck can use some work. He was basically playing the way he wants to play, disregarding what your opponent may have and won that way.

He won't get many victories like that.

I know that isn't the kind of build I would be using. I'm still dumbstuck by the fact he only used 1 DDWL. I would think at least 2 is mandatory.

It's not when you're playing 3 Dimensional Alchemist, recycling it, and you're not playing Shining Angel.

[shadowball2007]

Shadow, on 22 November 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

This thread really illustrates who plays YGO for high stakes and who doesn't.

Everybody here plays for high stakes people cant get mad at him for taking a chance an having it pay off an thats why he is the champ he was willing to take chances others where not willing to take

[shadowball2007]

The best example is 4TH and 1 are you gonna try to play smash mouth football or play safe and punt. If you go for it an make it your a hero/ go for it an fail then everyone wants to play monday morning quarterback/ if you punt nobody says anything

Edited by shadowball2007, 22 November 2011 - 07:46 AM.

[DKMagicianGirl]

King, on 22 November 2011 - 07:35 AM, said:

It's not when you're playing 3 Dimensional Alchemist, recycling it, and you're not playing Shining Angel.

Personally, I'm thinking 3 Alchemist is too much.....but that is just me. I would side one out for a 2nd DDWL.

If there is something I do have to give him, he did the playtesting and it worked for him, not me.

shadowball2007, on 22 November 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

The best example is 4TH and 1 are you gonna try to play smash mouth football or play safe and punt. If you go for it an make it your a hero/ go for it an fail then everyone wants to play monday morning quarterback/ if you punt nobody says anything

You do realize your comparisons are awful, right?

You're comparing sports that you are getting paid to execute properly to an Yugioh card event that you are paying for just for a chance to win?

I'm more impressed with the Karakuri 3rd place finisher than the Chaos winner.

Edited by DKMagicianGirl, 22 November 2011 - 07:58 AM.

[shadowball2007]

DKMagicianGirl, on 22 November 2011 - 07:55 AM, said:

You do realize your comparisons are awful, right?

You're comparing sports that you are getting paid to execute properly to an Yugioh card event that you are paying for just for a chance to win?

i was referring to the mindset which is the same no matter what you do. To take a chance or not. I just dont like people sitting bashing him because he had the balls to take chances sure they might have been really bad plays but if you win they mean nothing. If you lose you question yourself an he was lucky enough to win

[Vanilla Ice]

shadowball2007, on 22 November 2011 - 07:35 AM, said:

Everybody here plays for high stakes people cant get mad at him for taking a chance an having it pay off an thats why he is the champ he was willing to take chances others where not willing to take

No. Read the feature match and you know this guy played very badly. Early game, he summoned D.D. Crow and attacked for 100. What the heck? His opponent: had Naturia Landoise on field and he knew very well Waller was using Chaos and would rely a lot on monster's effect and that Waller had Maxx "C" in hand (they Dustshoot each other). yet he decided to activate Reborn just so that Waller could draw 1 rather than keeping it for Landoise' effect later.

Now, I'm not the best and knowledgeable player around, even not in ETC (of course, lol). However, I know very well, which play is smart and which isn't. Compared to a lot of other nice plays I've seen, I could say this time YCS' semifinalists aren't very good.

[DKMagicianGirl]

shadowball2007, on 22 November 2011 - 08:06 AM, said:

i was referring to the mindset which is the same no matter what you do. To take a chance or not. I just dont like people sitting bashing him because he had the balls to take chances sure they might have been really bad plays but if you win they mean nothing. If you lose you question yourself an he was lucky enough to win

He took the chance. It paid off. Most cases, that doesn't work.

He merely was playing the lottery and got the jackpot. The chance of him doing that again is very very slim.

I'm fine that he won.......but his playing ability doesn't come close to Billy Brake's back-to-back YCS wins......unless he hits the jackpot again.

I watched a few of his videos. He doesn't look that good. I would be bummed if I lost to him as well.

[shadowball2007]

Vanilla Ice, on 22 November 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

No. Read the feature match and you know this guy played very badly. Early game, he summoned D.D. Crow and attacked for 100. What the heck? His opponent: had Naturia Landoise on field and he knew very well Waller was using Chaos and would rely a lot on monster's effect and that Waller had Maxx "C" in hand (they Dustshoot each other). yet he decided to activate Reborn just so that Waller could draw 1 rather than keeping it for Landoise' effect later.

Now, I'm not the best and knowledgeable player around, even not in ETC (of course, lol). However, I know very well, which play is smart and which isn't. Compared to a lot of other nice plays I've seen, I could say this time YCS' semifinalists aren't very good.

Ok just read it wow

Edited by shadowball2007, 22 November 2011 - 08:25 AM.

[Ice King]

Shadow, on 22 November 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

This thread really illustrates who plays YGO for high stakes and who doesn't.

Serious business, man.

DKMagicianGirl, on 22 November 2011 - 07:28 AM, said:

I know that isn't the kind of build I would be using. I'm still dumbstuck by the fact he only used 1 DDWL. I would think at least 2 is mandatory.

DDWL's good and all since she gets rid of Reaper, Sangan, Dandy, Stardust, etc but main reason he went with 3 Alchemists is to recycle his Faders, DDWL, and provide Light removal fodder. Not to mention a boosted Alchemist runs over Tengu. Imagine Alchemist attacking an ATK mode Zenmaines. EP, sure, Alchemist dies, add Fader. Hence why he only mained Dustshoot and TT.

Edited by DSS, 22 November 2011 - 08:32 AM.

[DKMagicianGirl]

DSS, on 22 November 2011 - 08:32 AM, said:

Serious business, man.


DDWL's good and all since she gets rid of Reaper, Sangan, Dandy, Stardust, etc but main reason he went with 3 Alchemists is to recycle his Faders, DDWL, and provide Light removal fodder. Not to mention a boosted Alchemist runs over Tengu. Imagine Alchemist attacking an ATK mode Zenmaines. EP, sure, Alchemist dies, add Fader. Hence why he only mained Dustshoot and TT.

Can't argue with that. I just need to play the deck myself. I'm sure I will understand it better than doing all of this theorycrafting.

EDIT: Well, no. I take that back. Alchemist is best mid-to-late game because you need a monster already RFG'ed for it to become live. Otherwise, it's basically just a 1800 ATK monster on the field. DDWL is live all of the time and gives outs to multiple threats across almost any deck out there. While I'm sure a Shining Angel makes DDWL better, I doubt it's required to run this.

Also, I'm not a fan of a 27-monster count Chaos build otherwise you face harsh situations like Landoise.

It feels weird he won the YCS....but then again, logic goes out the window half the time when this happens.

Edited by DKMagicianGirl, 22 November 2011 - 08:46 AM.

[spellcasterbrent]

DKMagicianGirl, on 22 November 2011 - 07:28 AM, said:

His deck can use some work. He was basically playing the way he wants to play, disregarding what your opponent may have and won that way.

He won't get many victories like that.

I know that isn't the kind of build I would be using. I'm still dumbstuck by the fact he only used 1 DDWL. I would think at least 2 is mandatory.

He won't get many victories he had to go through a national event with out losing more than 2 rounds in swiss, and finally having to go undefeated to top the event, how the hell will he not get many victories?


"Had to neg you for posting that...

Pat was playing like a champ and Courtney was making one scrub move after another against him. There was so much grapeing luck on his side that Pat has every right to bitch about losing someone that wasnt on his level"

Really are you saying that Courtney so below Pat's level? Perhaps a note should be made that this was a match in the top 8. If anything they both had to win into top 8 it isn't like someone magically spun around pointed out Courtney and decided he would top 8, he grapeing made his way to top 8. He earn his level, Pat is on that same level. Say what you want about skill level, but the fact of the matter stands that Courtney made risks that paid off tremendously.

Edited by spellcasterbrent, 22 November 2011 - 08:52 AM.

[DKMagicianGirl]

spellcasterbrent, on 22 November 2011 - 08:45 AM, said:

He won't get many victories he had to go through a national event with out losing more than 2 rounds in swiss, and finally having to go undefeated to top the event, how the hell will he not get many victories?


"Had to neg you for posting that...

Pat was playing like a champ and Courtney was making one scrub move after another against him. There was so much grapeing luck on his side that Pat has every right to bitch about losing someone that wasnt on his level"

Really are you saying that Courtney so below Pat's level? Perhaps a note should be made that this was a match in the top 8. If anything they both had to win into top 8 it isn't like someone magically spun around pointed out Courtney and decided he would top 8, he grapeing made his way to top 8. He earn his level, Pat is on that same level. Say what you want about skill level, but the fact of the matter stands that Courtney made risks that paid off tremendously.

As I said before, he merely hit the jackpot. We will see if he does that again.

[shadowball2007]

DKMagicianGirl, on 22 November 2011 - 08:54 AM, said:

As I said before, he merely hit the jackpot. We will see if he does that again.

My guess is he wont win again but he can always say he won once

[spellcasterbrent]

DKMagicianGirl, on 22 November 2011 - 08:54 AM, said:

As I said before, he merely hit the jackpot. We will see if he does that again.

And how many people win twice? Merely a hand full.

[Tsunayoshi]

spellcasterbrent, on 22 November 2011 - 08:45 AM, said:

He won't get many victories he had to go through a national event with out losing more than 2 rounds in swiss, and finally having to go undefeated to top the event, how the hell will he not get many victories?


"Had to neg you for posting that...

Pat was playing like a champ and Courtney was making one scrub move after another against him. There was so much grapeing luck on his side that Pat has every right to bitch about losing someone that wasnt on his level"

Really are you saying that Courtney so below Pat's level? Perhaps a note should be made that this was a match in the top 8. If anything they both had to win into top 8 it isn't like someone magically spun around pointed out Courtney and decided he would top 8, he grapeing made his way to top 8. He earn his level, Pat is on that same level. Say what you want about skill level, but the fact of the matter stands that Courtney made risks that paid off tremendously.

Luck != Skill

The scrub didnt earn jack plum.

[DKMagicianGirl]

Yuck.....reading that Top 4 feature match makes my head hurt.

Dark Holing the field with a face-up Sangan and a Spirit Reaper while having a Bureido and a SDD on your side just doesn't make any sense. Searching your deck for a Soldier with Genex Neutron.....

I can see why no one will take the results of this YOC so seriously. I already lost interest.

[MUHZOMBEHS]

Sometimes bad players are the hardest to read. lol.

[Ira Aeterna]

>mfw comparing swinging into potential Gorz with going 4th and 1

The difference is a lot. Haha.

In football -

Laterals exist
Passes exist
Sometimes runners just straight up truck defenders
Time restrictions might DEMAND you go for it

In yugioh -
Once you've attacked, there's no "change of plans" without the cards to do so
If they have Gorz, you're not gonna grapeing juke him.
Even if time restrictions were in play, you get 5 turns after

So, nope