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[Kaiser Gogeta]

Ira Aeterna, on 22 November 2011 - 11:56 AM, said:

If they have Gorz, you're not gonna grapeing juke him.

lmao
+rep

[Krizz]

And, unlike this tard, a coach isn't going to call for a play on every fourth down.

Which is basically how this idiot was playing his cards.

[shadowball2007]

lol this has gone far pass the subject at hand which was his deck bottom line he won. Now we have people that say he misplayed, some say he is below Pats level, and some say he lucked up bottom line is he won. That should end it all

Edited by shadowball2007, 22 November 2011 - 12:21 PM.

[shadowball2007]

† кяızz †, on 22 November 2011 - 12:15 PM, said:

And, unlike this tard, a coach isn't going to call for a play on every fourth down.

Which is basically how this idiot was playing his cards.

i found this funny and very truthful

[MUHZOMBEHS]

Plus... if everyone drew into bls as much as this guy.. we'd all win a ycs. lol.

[Shadow]

shadowball2007, on 22 November 2011 - 07:35 AM, said:

Everybody here plays for high stakes people cant get mad at him for taking a chance an having it pay off an thats why he is the champ he was willing to take chances others where not willing to take

No, some of you don't play high stakes and it really shows. If you're analyzing the game like Hoban and Ira and Charlie are to the point where you're calculating actual percentages of a move's success or failure in your mind, you're more often than not playing in that kind of environment because one bad move is the difference between swag and walking out empty handed. Correlate it to WSOP.

Nobody in here is getting mad. There's some salt from some people, yes, but there's no butthurt. Some of you, however ARE blindly defending the guy for making STATISTICALLY poor choices in his gameplay. I'm not saying he was wrong, I'm not knocking his style because I'm not very cerebral at this game either, but the guy made quite a few choices that easily could have backfired on him and caused him to not crack the T32. Some of you defending him play exactly like he does and I know that from personal experience. I'm not a hater, but people are gonna defend people that play similarly to their style and that throws all subjectiveness out the window.

Also learn to type better if you're gonna learn to debate on here. Fair warning. Periods are your friend.

[spellcasterbrent]

Tsunayoshi, on 22 November 2011 - 10:35 AM, said:

Luck != Skill

The scrub didnt earn jack plum.

So this argument is exhausted next point, which already came up.


"Game 2
He plays MST, hitting Courtney's face-down. Courtney chains it, Book of Moon. Why didn't Pat just set the Maxx C, and try to bait out Courtney? (Wait for Courtney to feel overconfident, flip Alchemist, have Pat activate TT, chain the E-Con and take the Alchemist)

Sometimes when you're in a winning position, you feel overconfident, so you go in for a rush, which is a huge mistake. You're opponent can devastate your play with Gorz, TT, Mirror Force, Dark Hole, etc and turn everything around. I've played games where we're both sitting with a monster with equal ATK, but instead my opponent wants to run over it, so they drop another monster and make a Synchro/Exceed, only to lose out to a BTH or D Prison. Luck is always a big factor in the game, but it still requires a huge amount of skill because there's always plays you may overlook. "


What would say to this, why would or wouldn't Pat have gone for this play, if Courtney was already playing rather brutishly?

[MrMcThrasher]

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait...
He attacked with a D.D. Crow? Why? Was that the attack for game? If it wasn't, that was possibly the dumbest thing I've heard this week...

[Vanilla Ice]

MrMcThrasher, on 22 November 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait...
He attacked with a D.D. Crow? Why? Was that the attack for game? If it wasn't, that was possibly the dumbest thing I've heard this week...

Not really, he attacked with D.D. Crow to decrease his opponent's life points from 8000 to 7900.

[Mad Hatter]

Vanilla Ice, on 22 November 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

Not really, he attacked with D.D. Crow to decrease his opponent's life points from 8000 to 7900.

If Crush Card Virus was currently unbanned or he had a set Icarus Attack, I could at least somewhat understand such a play. Otherwise there's no good reason to remotely consider summoning a D.D Crow at all, especially that early. Setting the Crow due to a bad opening would have been more understandable but this is an outright misplay or utter stupidity on his part.

[Shadow]

Hatter's right, I've only ever done that backed with an Icarus.

[Ira Aeterna]

Brent, setting maxx c is bad. It's -almost- as bad as swinging with DD Crow

[Nomad]

I've done that stuff to make my opponents think I might have Icarus too, but mostly when it comes to Shura plays. I mean if nothing else, you could always discard the Crow later on to remove something useless for the sake of making your BLS live or whatever, but who knows. I wasn't there (let alone inside the heads of those players when the plays were made), so the possible reasons are endless.

[Ira Aeterna]

No there's not, Val. You don't have to try to see the best in everyone. Sometimes you gotta take a terrible play at face value.

[Anonymoose]

Shadow, on 22 November 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

This thread really illustrates who plays YGO for high stakes and who doesn't.

Pretty much every topic that is more than a page does this. Feels like it anyway...

Also, I remember how less-in-number-deck formats => skill formats. This victory makes me chuckle. It's like a middle finger to those who adamantly defend that argument. Sure, it was a fluke, but I still find it funny.

Honestly, I'm more disappointed that Courtney is a guy. *sigh*

[DKMagicianGirl]

Anonymoose, on 22 November 2011 - 06:16 PM, said:

Pretty much every topic that is more than a page does this. Feels like it anyway...

Also, I remember how less-in-number-deck formats => skill formats. This victory makes me chuckle. It's like a middle finger to those who adamantly defend that argument. Sure, it was a fluke, but I still find it funny.

Honestly, I'm more disappointed that Courtney is a guy. *sigh*

Chaos always been good. Just that no one really used it outside of teching Sorcerer and BLS.

I'm not hating his deck choice at all. I'm actually glad Chaos finally won one. It just reading that feature match and seeing the moves he made that just didn't make any sense.

And despite I didn't like him dropping a Crow in ATK and swinging for 100 damage in an open field, his opponent made even dumber moves. At least when he Dark Hole the field despite having a BLS on the field, he got a very legit reason for doing so not to mention now have a live Avarice to refuel.

Apparently, that worked so well, he was rewarded by drawing BLS again.

[Ice King]

MrMcThrasher, on 22 November 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait...
He attacked with a D.D. Crow? Why? Was that the attack for game? If it wasn't, that was possibly the dumbest thing I've heard this week...

Odds are, he probably didn't have a Dark in hand to go to the grave to drop a Chaos monster. But yeah, his play is just too odd.

[shadowball2007]

seen some of his interviews he is very weird but its the weird ones that win

[Vanilla Ice]

DSS, on 23 November 2011 - 08:34 AM, said:

Odds are, he probably didn't have a Dark in hand to go to the grave to drop a Chaos monster. But yeah, his play is just too odd.

He didn't have Light either. It was early game, both duelists didn't have any monsters on field. He wasn't in any desperate situation in which he needed a Chaos right away. Also, if he needed Dark that bad, he could save Crow for Reborn, or he could just set Crow when his opponent summoned some monster he couldn't handle. But, nope. He just summoned Crow and swung for 100.

[Anonymoose]

I wouldn't say attacking into a field that could have Gorz with zero outs to Gorz available is necessarily a bad thing... if you were to accurately read that the opponent had no Gorz. Probably not what happened here, but if it did, he would have been dead on, wouldn't he?

Also... the Crow attack thing... is pretty damn awful. Maybe he wanted to throw his opponent off? Because it would certainly throw me off a bit. It would have felt like he was so bad, he wouldn't have the skill to sack me even if he had the cards in hand. Even if just a little.