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[bherrell2]

Spend Your Money On
Spellground playmats. You can easily resell these for 50+ at events or trade-value. The spellground mat waves don't come along more than once a year and this is an amazing purchase. Not much else to be said really.

Those Wind up things such as Hunter and Factory - These won't make you amazing money, but probably 5$ or so for each copy you invest in. Everyone knows about the loop and while Maxx "C" grapes it over, it is still extremely relevant post zenmaighty. Wind-ups WILL BE competitive next format regardless of your opinion.

Vanity's Emptiness - It's just a common so you can buy them at 20 cents or so from certain stores. The hype on this card has been kept fairly low and it should be a 2-4$ common once it sees full exposure.

Order of Chaos Boxes - You can preorder them for 55 at several stores, and there is a solid chance you make your money back at face-value, and even if you don't, the trade bait has limitless potential. You can easily charge 3$ on Dragonflys, etc.

Things Not to Invest In
Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning - Nobody has been paying full price for this guy the entire format. Everyone has one and there is no potential in this unless you get lucky with some random kid (which is unlikely).

Glow Up Bulb/Scrap Dragon/Fabled Raven. They all have an average chance at getting reprinted in Order of Chaos SE or random reprints. The same goes for Maxx "C", BUT it's price won't go down unless a reprint is announced and picking them up at 40 is profitable still. Just be careful, as always.

Edited by bherrell2, 11 January 2012 - 01:52 PM.

[4gotmyotherpw]

bherrell2, on 15 December 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:

Unless you live in a cave, you know the yugioh market is something that we flirt with all the time. The current date is December 15, 2011 and I will explain the current state of the market as well as things to invest in.

Spend Your Money On
Spellground playmats - You can easily resell these for 50+ at events or trade-value. The spellground mat waves don't come along more than once a year and this is an amazing purchase. Not much else to be said really.

Those Wind up things such as Hunter and rat - These won't make you amazing money, but probably 5$ or so for each copy you invest in. Everyone knows about the loop and while Maxx "C" grapes it over, it is still extremely relevant post zenmaighty. Wind-ups WILL BE competitive next format regardless of your opinion.

I would have more cash than actual inventory right now because the next set is pretty big. Idk what zenmaighty will get released at but I would probably buy them as high as 25$ each (it is indeed a SCR rare) to start out with. I would also get cheap Effect Veilers, Shard of Greeds, and Wind-up Rabbits on the dl.

Things Not to Invest In
Black Luster Soldier Envoy of the Beginning - nobody has been paying full price for this guy the entire format. everyone has their's and there is no potential in this unless you get lucky with some rando kid (which is unlikely).

Maxx "C" - everyone is going to charge you 60$ to get one, and only buy them at 40. it cant physically go any higher or be played anymore. it has reached its maximum potential.

To end this, be careful with your Tour Guides. Tour Guide cannot go much higher, but Tour Bus could get it going a little bit. On the flip-side, the banlist and a possible reprint can immediately tank the price. The safe option is to sell for 140, if you try to milk it you won't get more than 170 (that being if Tour Bus is the nuts or something and no reprint/banlist occurs) so it isn't really worth the risk.

This is some decent discussion so far.

1st - Your link to Spellground playmats is broken
2nd - I disagree / don't understand why people like the spellground playmats, they're ugly in my (humble) opinion.
3rd - Agree with all the wind-ups. Hunters might see $10 a piece, hopefully rat doesn't turn out to be anymore than a super, since it's a rare in OCG.
4th - Shard of Greed is bad. It's a MUCH worse Six Samurai United, and you cant do anything to speed it up like you can SSU.

I agree with your things not to invest in. BLS got inflated BIG time when it came back because people didn't have them. With GLD4 out, ERRYBODY'S got em.

[Canti]

I picked up a Maxx C for a Vapor at the GENF preview. I should sell it soon.

[ichigo]

Just use the original link. Kbgames.com. I do agree on the spellground mat idea. I recently purchased a charcoal one from my friend for cheap as well as a new one from the site. Some may not find them appealing but others do, so might as well and try to make a profit before there all gone because once they officially stop making them the price will jump.

[bherrell2]

Its not even that the "price will jump", it is just a lot of people don't know about the website and spellgrounds are always in high demand. I am going to buy a couple two player mats which you can move at 100 a piece quite easily.

[Nomad]

I had to remove your sales link, but I think you're onto something with the playmat mention. I mean if nothing else, gaming supplies have an edge over cards because not only to they not just get reprinted, but they're also not subject to being more or less useful when the format changes. I mean, there's obviously going to be popularity issues (like with any other collectible), but for the most part anyway, they hold their value a lot more than cards, and they can also be rarer because they're produced in a far smaller amount.

Then when it comes to cards, it's a game of chance, and the whole "buy low/sell high" mentality still holds true. Cards that're already very inflated don't usually leave much room for profit because you'll often at best break even. However, cards that're cheap (but that we think are gonna get better) are naturally more sound investments, as the alternate to breaking even involves making a profit.

[junkadin]

I think this thread is very relevant to the interests of traders on this site.

my 2 cents on things that you should get a playset of:

ultra rare junk synchrons (minor)
tunings(medium)
any junk type synchros
super quickdraw synchrons

I can see shooting quasar dragon decks being big in the future and tunings are cheap.

[bherrell2]

It never will lol. Those cards are pretty useless as "junk decks" are just wrecked by Maxx "C', Dinosaurs, and DW. If we had all the junk cards we currently do, maybe a year ago, then yes I think it would be a good deck but everything is just too OP.

Also Wind-Up Hunters are 4-5$ now vs. the $1 they were when I made this topic.

Other Good Investments Right now: Fiendish Chains, Effect Veiler (still), Vanity's Emptiness in bulk, and [sarc]Really Eternal Rests because it kills Inzektors [/sarc]

[Love. Hate. Cherish.]

Wouldn't it be "Stock Market - Yugioh Edition?"

[junkadin]

My main thoughts on getting the junk stuff (namely the super quickdraws) is that they are really cheap right now (about 10$) and when shooting quasar comes out I can easily see a ton of people playing the deck. I don't see why you couldn't make double your money back, if not more.

im still working on getting my wind ups

[junkadin]

Also this thread should be updated regularly imo.

Have a few sections with good investments now, later, and bad investments now and later

[bherrell2]

junkadin, on 29 December 2011 - 10:47 PM, said:

My main thoughts on getting the junk stuff (namely the super quickdraws) is that they are really cheap right now (about 10$) and when shooting quasar comes out I can easily see a ton of people playing the deck. I don't see why you couldn't make double your money back, if not more.

im still working on getting my wind ups

Shooting Quasar has been out for about a month lol.

It sucks.....

I don't think you understand if a deck cannot consistently beat first turn Dragged + Grapha, and first turn Laggia then it isn't a playable deck.

I also do not think you understand all junk does is spam synchro fodder and has no early game or reliable plays. I activate a Maxx "C" and I will have at least a +5 on you by the end of the turn, guaranteed. The concept will never be playable.

Edited by bherrell2, 29 December 2011 - 11:02 PM.

[Tsunayoshi]

Assuming that Lavals in OCG go untouched all the way until we get the new stuff they have.

They do Quasar pretty easily and could actually do it twice in a turn.

[bherrell2]

Tsunayoshi, on 29 December 2011 - 11:02 PM, said:

Assuming that Lavals in OCG go untouched all the way until we get the new stuff they have.

They do Quasar pretty easily and could actually do it twice in a turn.

I don't think any of the current Laval stuff are actual set holos. Pretty sure they are all hidden arsenal cards therefore don't really have much potential. We don't get their double foolish for like a year. The deck is okay, but certainly not anything special to invest it.

[Tsunayoshi]

bherrell2, on 29 December 2011 - 11:04 PM, said:

I don't think any of the current Laval stuff are actual set holos. Pretty sure they are all hidden arsenal cards therefore don't really have much potential. We don't get their double foolish for like a year. The deck is okay, but certainly not anything special to invest it.

That was meant to be more as a disproving post towards Quasar spammers being bad. I admit the deck has a way to go, even with where its at now, but it should be pretty cool to see how the deck fares once it all gets out in the TCG.

[bherrell2]

Tsunayoshi, on 29 December 2011 - 11:21 PM, said:

That was meant to be more as a disproving post towards Quasar spammers being bad. I admit the deck has a way to go, even with where its at now, but it should be pretty cool to see how the deck fares once it all gets out in the TCG.

I guess a couple bucks lol? A tier 2 deck being able to summon Quasar every 5 duels doesn't make it double in price or anything.

But I guess Super Rekindlings? They are about 15 right now I could stand to pay 8 or 9 for them. Once the good laval support gets closer and more hype (if any) comes you would obviously judge if they were good to pick up then, it' a little early right now.

[junkadin]

thoughts on getting tourbus's?

[Negative One]

Invest in them if you can get a good deal. Good luck with that though, people are already pre-selling them for huge amounts of money. If you can get one under $20, I'd say go for it, I really doubt it'll go beyond that. It helps the windup loop but beyond that it doesn't make any deck significantly better.

I suggest hoarding Royal Decree though. The card hasn't been printed in a long time, and Inzektors require it for the side since almost everything sided to counter them is a trap. You can probably get them for cheap from people who don't know what they're worth these days, though they're around $5 commons on Ebay more or less.

Also Veilers are about to go back up.

[bherrell2]

Tour Bus will probably be a 35$ semi-decent trade-bait card but I don't see people selling you them for any less. All the random kids at the sneaks who get one will be like IT WORKS WITH TOUR GUIDE OMG 200$ CARD and the older players will probably trade them to the younger kids. I don't see much very much potential with the card money-wise because I spent a good 5 hours last night trying to re-invent the Future Fusion FTK and I was just short.

It just isn't a good card. The 35$ will be because a deck or two wouldn't mind it and the occasional bad Plant player will side it.

Royal Decree has been played before, and it never went up then. It WAS a solid card in the SJC NJ era and for some time after, as well as 2009-2010 Lightsworn. People siding a copy here and there won't have any effect on the price because the card never went up when was actually main-decked and sided in a good amount of decks. Decree is a 5$ common and it has been for basically forever.

Edited by bherrell2, 30 December 2011 - 01:19 PM.

[bherrell2]

i have updated this