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[Tyrant]

ban:

wind-up hunter
monster reborn
black luster soldier
trap dustshoot
leviair the sea dragon
pot of avarice
lonefire blossom

limit:

inzekter hornet
royal oppression
goyo guardian
dark magician of chaos
tribe-infecting virus
gladiator beast gyzarus
archlord kristya
tsukuyomi
royal tribute
rescue rabbit
red-eyes darkness metal dragon
judgment dragon

semi:

grapha, beast raspberry of dark world
caius the shadow monarch
solemn judgment
master hyperion
substitoad

unlimit:

book of moon
solemn warning
bottomless trap hole


this is far and away beyond what konami will do, but this is probably all that needs to be done to make the game managable.

Edited by Maximum Charles, 09 February 2012 - 11:48 PM.

[Canti]

Maximum Charles, on 09 February 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

ban:

wind-up hunter - Sure
monster reborn - I don't really feel that it's that bad. Am I really in the minority?
black luster soldier - Sure
trap dustshoot - Conflicted about this
leviair the sea dragon - I love this, but it will never happen
pot of avarice - Sure
lonefire blosso - Sure

limit:

inzekter hornet - Sure
royal oppression - Sure
goyo guardian - I'm not too keen on this
dark magician of chaos - Eh, though I'm sure someone will break it again.
tribe-infecting virus - Won't really matter
gladiator beast gyzarus - No, GBs are weak enough.
archlord kristya - Sure
tsukuyomi - Ninja staple
royal tribute - Sure
rescue rabbit - It can be at 2 or 3, Leviair is what breaks it.
red-eyes darkness metal dragon - Preemptive, Dragons will probably rape if he stays untouched
judgment dragon - Sure

semi:

grapha, beast raspberry of dark world - Sure
caius the shadow monarch - Really? I don't see it
solemn judgment - Sure
master hyperion - Sure

unlimit:

book of moon - Every deck will have a PhD or at least a Masters
solemn warning - IDRC
bottomless trap hole - Sure


this is far and away beyond what konami will do, but this is probably all that needs to be done to make the game managable.

They'll never touch this many cards at once.

Edited by Canti, 09 February 2012 - 11:42 PM.

[Tyrant]

trap dust - i just don't like any card that wins you the game if it's in your opening hand 85% of the time.

goyo - i really don't see this card being as significant as it was.

gyzarus - glads are weak NOW. not if EVERY other deck is hit. they would destroy the meta in this format without losing something. gyza at 1 isn't really even that bad because it can tag.

rabbit - leviair isn't what breaks this. opening with it every game is what breaks it imo. even without leviair, this would be so nutty at 3.

caius - just so frog monarchs lose SOMETHING since they're gaining 2 substitoad.

[Ira Aeterna]

While I like having Judgment at 2, we can't have 5 solemns running around, charlie

[Tyrant]

Ira Aeterna, on 10 February 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

While I like having Judgment at 2, we can't have 5 solemns running around, charlie

You're probably right.

Honestly, I'm for banning Warning and putting J to 3.

[Sheik_the_Geek]

Canti, on 09 February 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Post it

Here you go:

Quote

Originally Posted by King Huge
So based on Information so far:

CONFIRMED SO FAR:

Tour Guide From the Underworld
Gem-Knight Pearl
Doomcalibur Knight
Fabled Raven
Adreus, Keeper of Armageddon
Backup Warrior
Mobius the Frost Monarch
Caius the Shadow Monarch
Raiza the Storm Monarch
Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
Gagaga Magician
Ancient Gear Knight
Dark Magician of Chaos
Skull Archfiend of Lightning
Pot of Avarice
Forbidden Lance
Fiendish Chain
Guardian Sphinx
Gravatic Orb
Witch of the Black Forest
Dark Magician of Chaos
Raigeki
Dark Bribe
Metal Reflect Slime
Obelisk the Tormentor
Greenkappa
Liberty At Last!
Penguin Soldier
Axe of Despair
Forbidden Lance
Ante
Reckless Greed
Half or Nothing
Power Frame
Luster Dragon
Wind-Up Warrior
Vampire Lord
The Tricky
Card Trooper
Backup Warrior
Power Giant
Arcana Force XIV – Temperance
Gagaga Magician
Gogogo Golem
Toon Gemini Elf
Muka Muka
Makyura the Destructor
Stealth Bird
Night Assailant
Drill Roid
Cyber Valley
Naturia Strawberry

Yeah I know, Sealed format and such so no list enforcement, but I just want everyone to notice DMOC and Witch.

Again, not implying anything, but I could see Sangan getting banned (something everyone wants) and the Witch comes off the list to take its place (as generic searcher). This isnt about replacing cards, but moreso, keeping certain effects in the meta. DMOC could come off if Monster Reborn gets banned, which is really its only good target outside of Heavy Storm with the current list.

Tewart is a troll like that. Just my thoughts, though.

Edited by Sheik_the_Geek, 10 February 2012 - 03:53 AM.

[Crue]

Crue, on 09 February 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

The thing with Royal Oppression is the way OCG has its ruling. They would have to change it before it would come back.

† Saint Christopher †, on 09 February 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

How do you mean?

Sorry, cant find it. I guess I heard wrong about it.

Edited by Crue, 10 February 2012 - 08:02 AM.

[YourMama]

Maximum Charles,
Love your list for the sole reason of Tsukuyomi and Book of Moon to 3.
Empty Jar would be amazing. Wouldn't that deck run rampant with these two changes alone? I know going second would hurt it I suppose given the opponent has the cards to stop it from going, but still.

Bring back Cyber Jar. How I miss thee.
;-;

[Tyrant]

YourMama, on 10 February 2012 - 07:47 AM, said:

Maximum Charles,
Love your list for the sole reason of Tsukuyomi and Book of Moon to 3.
Empty Jar would be amazing. Wouldn't that deck run rampant with these two changes alone? I know going second would hurt it I suppose given the opponent has the cards to stop it from going, but still.

Bring back Cyber Jar. How I miss thee.
;-;

Yeah, I guess it would beat you if your opponent opened Morphing Jar and you don't open/draw Veiler.

[PowerCrazy]

Aside from Charlie putting BoM at 3, I feel like Karakuri would be quite troublesome with these lists because it remains untouched. If you're even going to hit GBs, you might want to hit them too. Possibly by putting Burei at 1 or Ninishi at 2 (1 would kill the deck)

[bherrell2]

no karakuris have never been a problem deck, are not a good deck atm, and will never be a problem deck.

it was a GOOD deck pre photon because it could put more floaters on the board than plant and have bigger monsters sitting behind a maxx c. the dino/dw/agent/inzektor/wind-up matchups are all awful though.

notice that dino wasn't out yet when karakuri was good, dw "sucked", agent was given up on for plant, and the rest came in order of chaos.

as for charlies list, i dont know if it is "what will happen" or "what should happen", but konami definitely doesnt care to ban so many cards and ruin their profits, or hit rando cards like jd or gyzarus. book warning and bth will never all be unlimited at the same time, and i would rather not have frogs be the best deck (because it would be). if it was a what should happen list, then it makes no sense remotely.

thoughts duelists

[Ira Aeterna]

Sheik_the_Geek, on 10 February 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

Here you go:




Yeah I know, Sealed format and such so no list enforcement, but I just want everyone to notice DMOC and Witch.

Again, not implying anything, but I could see Sangan getting banned (something everyone wants) and the Witch comes off the list to take its place (as generic searcher). This isnt about replacing cards, but moreso, keeping certain effects in the meta. DMOC could come off if Monster Reborn gets banned, which is really its only good target outside of Heavy Storm with the current list.

Tewart is a troll like that. Just my thoughts, though.

That list has back up warrior twice

[ichigo]

Im kinda wondering why hit JD to 1. It going to 3 did not make the deck better. I would rather have 2 JD again and put charge to 2. Although I do miss 2 Honest :P

Ira Aeterna, on 10 February 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

That list has back up warrior twice

As well as Dmoc and forbidden lance

Edited by ichigo, 10 February 2012 - 09:26 PM.

[Sheik_the_Geek]

/POJOFAIL

The duplicates are someone editing the main post without double checking it >_>

[spellcasterbrent]

Maximum Charles, on 09 February 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

ban:

wind-up hunter
monster reborn
black luster soldier
trap dustshoot
leviair the sea dragon
pot of avarice
lonefire blossom

limit:

inzekter hornet
royal oppression
goyo guardian
dark magician of chaos
tribe-infecting virus
gladiator beast gyzarus
archlord kristya
tsukuyomi
royal tribute
rescue rabbit
red-eyes darkness metal dragon
judgment dragon

semi:

grapha, beast raspberry of dark world
caius the shadow monarch
solemn judgment
master hyperion
substitoad

unlimit:

book of moon
solemn warning
bottomless trap hole


this is far and away beyond what konami will do, but this is probably all that needs to be done to make the game managable.

No way they are hitting Red-Eyes. Dragons don't do a thing in Japan.

[bherrell2]

Ira Aeterna, on 30 December 2011 - 02:09 PM, said:

Fiendish chain is literally absolutely awful and theres no reason to run it

anyone remember this discussion we had, i think i won

also havent seen a single copy of doom dozer in the various regional tops/good builds the deck has

?

[Ira Aeterna]

bherrell2, on 11 February 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

anyone remember this discussion we had, i think i won

also havent seen a single copy of doom dozer in the various regional tops/good builds the deck has

?

Who cares about regionals?

And yeah, I can admit I was totally mistaken on fiendish. I was still in the plant mindset when I said that.

[The Rock]

Newest list

Forbidden:
Monster Reborn
Trap Dustshoot


Limited:
Karakuri Komachi mdl 224 “Ninishi”
Wind-Up Hunter
The Agent of Creation - Venus
Tsukuyomi
T.G. Striker
Rescue Rabbit
Instant Fusion
Pot of Duality
Rekindling
Ultimate Offering


Semi-Limited:
Armageddon Knight
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow
Master Hyperion
Emergency Teleport


Unlimited:
Marshmallon
Magical Stone Excavation
Mind Crush

http://www.yuginewz....ml#comment-form

[Canti]

The Rock, on 14 February 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Newest list

Forbidden:
Monster Reborn - Fuck you
Trap Dustshoot - Reasonable


Limited:
Karakuri Komachi mdl 224 “Ninishi” - Sorry, PC
Wind-Up Hunter - Pointless, you only need one and you can SS him from the deck, GY or hand
The Agent of Creation - Venus - OK
Tsukuyomi - Ninja staple
T.G. Striker - W/e
Rescue Rabbit - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Instant Fusion - Eh
Pot of Duality - Wuuuuuuuuuuuuut?
Rekindling - Good, that card was broken
Ultimate Offering - Eh


Semi-Limited:
Armageddon Knight - Eh
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole - No one will run 2
Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow - Eh
Master Hyperion - Eh
Emergency Teleport - Eh


Unlimited:
Marshmallon - Eh
Magical Stone Excavation - Eh
Mind Crush - Eh

This is a pretty bad list, I hope this is fake. Win Derps/Infagtors rule the format.

Edited by Canti, 14 February 2012 - 01:30 PM.

[Canti]

This would be a much better list, minus FF.