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[namesake]

Just came in here to post this: this format is the worst of them all. I play bherrel once in a while and wind-ups, and the new deck types are getting strong enough to the point that the newer deck types are making the older one obsoletes. Also the power creeps this list make it bad.

I am seriously hoping I can fix my deck. It looks like I am stuck in casual play or will have to netdeck. I can't quit my clan since I already made the commitment so I'll have to either netdeck or try to improve my deck.

Consider this: this is the longest wait in recent history of yugioh for a bad deck banned list until they fix the new decktypes and make it more balanced.

Edited by namesake, 24 January 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[YourMama]

I don't play competitive. Just observe and a tad of casual play here and there, so as far as formats go, they don't pertain to me whether they are bad or good. From what I observe though, I will have to agree almost totally with namesake and his comments.
But I guess making older deck types obsolete is a good way to push products though. I understand, but it does suck for people who spent money on older cards and now can't use them anymore competitively if they chose.

[Shadow]

YourMama, on 24 January 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

I don't play competitive. Just observe and a tad of casual play here and there, so as far as formats go, they don't pertain to me whether they are bad or good. From what I observe though, I will have to agree almost totally with namesake and his comments.
But I guess making older deck types obsolete is a good way to push products though. I understand, but it does suck for people who spent money on older cards and now can't use them anymore competitively if they chose.

Such is the fate when TCGs play in reverse markets where older cards are worthless and new cards are incredibly expensive (For the average player in the group)

[Vanilla Ice]

What's PC format?

And, as bad as it will be, I don't think Wind-Up format will be as bad as Heavy-less format. Going second in front of Tengu with sets totally sucked.

[Cøin]

Vanilla Ice, on 24 January 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

What's PC format?

Perfect Circle.

Best for me is either TeleDAD or PC. Worst? idk.

[junkadin]

Love. Hate. Cherish., on 23 January 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. Clearly you didn't play Tele-DAD at the time.

I didn't play Tele-Dad because I couldn't afford too. I'm not arguing that mirror matches were skill intensive, I had plenty of friends that played the deck and I know that making 1 mistake could easily cost you the game. I'm simply saying that if you couldn't afford to build the deck then you were at a major disadvantage regardless of how skilled you were as a player.

[Sheik_the_Geek]

junkadin, on 24 January 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

I didn't play Tele-Dad because I couldn't afford too. I'm not arguing that mirror matches were skill intensive, I had plenty of friends that played the deck and I know that making 1 mistake could easily cost you the game. I'm simply saying that if you couldn't afford to build the deck then you were at a major disadvantage regardless of how skilled you were as a player.

Agreed with this and Tenken.

[Tenken]

junkadin, on 24 January 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

I didn't play Tele-Dad because I couldn't afford too. I'm not arguing that mirror matches were skill intensive, I had plenty of friends that played the deck and I know that making 1 mistake could easily cost you the game. I'm simply saying that if you couldn't afford to build the deck then you were at a major disadvantage regardless of how skilled you were as a player.

I disagree somewhat.

I think there was actually a good variety of decks to be used during TeleDAD (mostly anti-meta based because the meta was so centralized). TeleDAD was the only deck that was topping though because that was the only deck the good pros would play, because it was the best. Antimeta could beat TeleDAD, but TeleDAD was far more consistent and explosive versus everything.

One of the reasons I liked TeleDAD was because a variety of antimeta decks were very viable imo. They still had issues of a few inconsistencies over longer tournaments, but stopping the pace of TeleDAD was possible if they didn't expode first turn.

Crush Card did suck though. Single-handedly raped me more times than it should have. But I guess that is my fault for not adapting better towards it.

[Canti]

Rurouni, on 23 January 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

But Tele-DaD was less about skill and more about "who can open the most ridiculous and kill on turn two/three" and/or "which one of us has the most money invested in our decks to up the odds of opening with DaD/Krebons/Teleport/Grepher/etc". It was every bit as bad as Lightsworn format. The mirror isn't about skill if the deck plays itself, man.

I didn't play Tele-DAD and I loved that format. I was never a better player than I was then and I disagree that it wasn't skillful. I ran TD maybe 5 times the entire format and did horrible every time. But hey, maybe I'm just a retard.

junkadin, on 24 January 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

I'm simply saying that if you couldn't afford to build the deck then you were at a major disadvantage regardless of how skilled you were as a player.

Nope, GB was cheap as hell and incredibly effective and if they had had Gyz and Chariot in PTDN it would have been soooooooooooooo sweet

Edited by Canti, 25 January 2012 - 03:36 AM.

[Ice King]

Canti, on 25 January 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

Nope, GB was cheap as hell and incredibly effective and if they had had Gyz and Chariot in PTDN it would have been soooooooooooooo sweet

But then you wouldn't have Equeste to loop back the Chariot :p

I ran GBs that format and loved the hell out of it. Chariots were $8-10, Gyzarus was $12-15, and Herk just got the reprint so it was no longer a $200+ card. The rest of the deck, aside from triple Solemn Judgment, Test Tigers, and Prisma were mostly commons and rares so it was very easy to pick up.

[Tyrant]

I played TeleDaD with no Dark Armed and called it Orphan.

[junkadin]

Tenken, on 25 January 2012 - 01:02 AM, said:

I disagree somewhat.

I think there was actually a good variety of decks to be used during TeleDAD (mostly anti-meta based because the meta was so centralized). TeleDAD was the only deck that was topping though because that was the only deck the good pros would play, because it was the best. Antimeta could beat TeleDAD, but TeleDAD was far more consistent and explosive versus everything.

One of the reasons I liked TeleDAD was because a variety of antimeta decks were very viable imo. They still had issues of a few inconsistencies over longer tournaments, but stopping the pace of TeleDAD was possible if they didn't expode first turn.

Crush Card did suck though. Single-handedly raped me more times than it should have. But I guess that is my fault for not adapting better towards it.

Thanks for pointing out how I missed pointing out the variety of anti-meta decks. I played black garden control at the time.

[Sheik_the_Geek]

Maximum Charles, on 25 January 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

I played TeleDaD with no Dark Armed and called it Orphan.

LOL

[Ex-Creations]

I missed Tele-DAD, but I did play Perfect Circle. Definitely my pick for best.

And Heavy Storm-less format was awful.

[Tyrant]

Sheik_the_Geek, on 25 January 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

LOL

Topped with it too!

[Sheik_the_Geek]

Maximum Charles, on 25 January 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

Topped with it too!

*brofist*

[Hmmmm]

Goat format was the best.

[Black Hayato]

My favorites:
Goat Control
PC/Tele-Dad
Gladiator

Worst:
Everything else.