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[namesake]

Divine Wrath
Group: Trap Card
Type: Trap
Icon:Counter
Discard 1 card from your hand. Negate the activation of an Effect Monster's effect, and destroy that Effect Monster.

It's a underrated card. I think with decks that have some dead draws and can plus two, this card comes handy since you can discard and stop all their moves.

I recommend it in rabbit decks to discard the normal monster. In other decks it requires more thought.

Edited by g1Nz0™, 01 January 2012 - 08:41 PM.

[Twitter]

i was thinking about this yesterday. if mst weren't at 3, this would totally be super cool man

[namesake]

Much cooler than ice-cream and tastes better too. Who wouldn't want to face the divine wrath of a god? It's the oldest curse there is and the indians got their plum right when they said it too.

More serious post:
I think that this card can even be used in a chaos deck.

Also I dont like using volcanic shells with this. If we had a realiable way to re-shuffle that be good without being a minus one. We will never have a good watered-down sinister serpent until they fix it.

Edited by namesake, 31 December 2011 - 07:53 PM.

[Vanilla Ice]

namesake, on 31 December 2011 - 07:49 PM, said:

Much cooler than ice-cream and tastes better too.

How dare you!!! Oh, this is Vanilla Ice btw.

On a more serious discussion too: this card is good. But the discard makes this card less playable. Either Volcanic Shell or Plant engine can make good use of this. Maybe Fabled can make a space for this card. If you want to negate an effect without discarding, might just stick to Fiendish Chain.

[MrMcThrasher]

I like this card sided in my Fabled build. It's definitely not a card for every deck, but the card is great nevertheless.

[Tsunayoshi]

Divine Wrath doesnt have a place in the current format. The decks that could have taken advantage of the discard are too slow, either from lack of support or power creep ruining their day, or dont have what it takes to compete in the meta in the first place.

Fabled really is the only deck I can think of that could really make use of Divine Wrath, but the deck will pretty much never get back to where it was when it was legitimately good and not just getting Features or tops because of sheer numbers

Plants dont really benefit from this as much as people would actually like to think since the deck only has about three cards it wants to discard for any reason, and the deck has better ways to use those discards in the first place, otherwise it wants to do more with its cards on the field or grabbing them from the deck. I dont think there are any other decks that could do anything useful with Wrath's discard, outside of the obligatory and pointless reasoning of getting rid of dead cards in hand.

[namesake]

Wakusei, on 01 January 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

How dare you!!! Oh, this is Vanilla Ice btw.

On a more serious discussion too: this card is good. But the discard makes this card less playable. Either Volcanic Shell or Plant engine can make good use of this. Maybe Fabled can make a space for this card. If you want to negate an effect without discarding, might just stick to Fiendish Chain.

=( Talk about bad timing for changing your name. You were voted best new member. Not like you are going to be granted immortality but still.

@Tsunayoshi: I dont think divine wrath is expected, and if you back a chaos sorceror with this you can gain a lot of advantage and chaos gets played everywhere.

I'll admit you made the same point I made about dead cards.

I still don't understand what people mean by power creep, someone care to explain?

[Anonymoose]

Whenever I have tried to run this card, I always get it hit by MST or I don't have any cards in hand that I would have even the remotest desire to discard.

It is always the first card sided out and the last card sided in, so I decided there were better options >>

[namesake]

@Anonymoose: that's a nice statement for the contrary opinion but don't you usually run six samurai? What decks do you run? We all run different decks. Mine are pretty much all chaos varients since that card can be made into rogue.

Edited by namesake, 02 January 2012 - 06:45 PM.

[bherrell2]

namesake, on 02 January 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

=( Talk about bad timing for changing your name. You were voted best new member. Not like you are going to be granted immortality but still.

@Tsunayoshi: I dont think divine wrath is expected, and if you back a chaos sorceror with this you can gain a lot of advantage and chaos gets played everywhere.

I'll admit you made the same point I made about dead cards.

I still don't understand what people mean by power creep, someone care to explain?

http://articles.alte...mes.com/?p=9374

i guess the short version of this article is there isnt room to play cute cards like divine wrath and u need moar broken powerful cards in order to combat the meta

[Vanilla Ice]

namesake, on 02 January 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

=( Talk about bad timing for changing your name. You were voted best new member. Not like you are going to be granted immortality but still.

@Tsunayoshi: I dont think divine wrath is expected, and if you back a chaos sorceror with this you can gain a lot of advantage and chaos gets played everywhere.

I'll admit you made the same point I made about dead cards.

I still don't understand what people mean by power creep, someone care to explain?

It's new year, a change is inevitable. But I still love ice cream like hell. Hahaha.

Maybe this can help you understand the concept of power creep:

http://yugiohetcforu...he-power-creep/

EDIT: sniped by Bherrell

Edited by Wakusei, 02 January 2012 - 07:32 PM.

[namesake]

Now I am going to add that argument slams every decent card and and I know the game is in disarray but I still play it. Such arguments make you look at cards less subjectively and makes you say that they fit into this grand argument or truth.

Ok so if I limited what I said I would say this card has its uses like in rabbit (power creep).

Bherrel's point was spot on, I just hope we dont miss points of discussing single cards before the new ban list.

As far as theory he usually knows what he is talking about without representing the universal opinion or being like the sun god or something. I guess he wouldnt like that the romans got their personal perks for paying their taxes like a shiny sun dial with no reimbursement or approval of the sun god. And Ice cream would melt. Wouldn't the vikings think he was his savior, no wait that was actually Valhalla women.

Serious response:
He knows what he talks about. Wakusei, you need to tell me the secrets of your name! You villain you. (It's infamous to keep secrets). For all you know the next package they sent you has your grandson from the future inside.

Edited by namesake, 03 January 2012 - 09:16 AM.

[Anonymoose]

namesake, on 02 January 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

@Anonymoose: that's a nice statement for the contrary opinion but don't you usually run six samurai? What decks do you run? We all run different decks. Mine are pretty much all chaos varients since that card can be made into rogue.

Easy mistake--I don't usually run Six Samurai. It's simply my favorite decktype of all time. A combination of the power creep and Samurai's being unnecessarily sacked (I feel like, even if they were untouched, they still would not be tier 1) made it a bad idea to run. I still haven't figured out how, anyway.

As for what I do run, Imma switch to judging until we get to a format that I'm comfortable playing in. But I've played... a few different decks. And I've always tried to run Divine Wrath at some point in all of those decks...but it just never worked out.

[Vanilla Ice]

Anonymoose, on 02 January 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

But I've played... a few different decks. And I've always tried to run Divine Wrath at some point in all of those decks...but it just never worked out.

Same here. VolcanicFairy is the only deck that can sport this card.

[Crue]

I really liked this card in my dragon deck. But I dont think there will be any room for it when the new dragon deck comes out on 2/7. But, I will wait and see.

[namesake]

I wonder if sporting 2-3 max c would help at all. IMO syngery is a big part of the equation in any deck as it is with divine wrath. If you park your boss monster behind it expect to profit a lot since you maintain momentum. I wonder if that is what might explain some of the errors.

Edited by namesake, 03 January 2012 - 09:24 AM.

[Vanilla Ice]

namesake, on 03 January 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

I wonder if sporting 2-3 max c would help at all. IMO syngery is a big part of the equation in any deck as it is with divine wrath. If you park your boss monster behind it expect to profit a lot since you maintain momentum. I wonder if that is what might explain some of the errors.

It's not like all of your opponent plays Plant. You can't always rely on Maxx C to have extra cards to discard. And it's not like the only threat to your boss monster can be solved by having Divine Wrath, they can still MC your boss monster, smash them, or anything.

[namesake]

On the upside if we get solemn judgment at 2 this might see more play since you would be thinning/weeding out their options.

Edited by namesake, 03 January 2012 - 05:03 PM.

[Krizz]

There is no plus side. This card has long since become useless in everything that stands a chance against any decent meta deck.

[Tsunayoshi]

† кяızz †, on 03 January 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

There is no plus side. This card has long since become useless in everything that stands a chance against any decent meta deck.

The entire reasoning for my first post in this thread.

There should have been no need for me, or anyone else for that matter, to point out why this card sucks.