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[Khaotic Angel]

So I decided to start making decks to abuse certain cards. My first project is to abuse Maha Vailo. We all remember that beat stick back in the day with 3 Axe of Despair on it. Fun times right. Well I'm sure it can be fun again. Would anyone care to help me? If so start posting suggestions here. It would be so worth it to troll with a Maha Vailo deck and you know it. Lol.

Edited by Khaotic Angel, 06 January 2012 - 06:35 PM.

[bherrell2]

Is losing to dimensional prison fun

[Khaotic Angel]

bherrell2, on 06 January 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

Is losing to dimensional prison fun

Even you should you are not just gonna blindly attack into crap.

[bherrell2]

Khaotic Angel, on 06 January 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Even you should you are not just gonna blindly attack into crap.

I just didn't think the topic deserved a serious response.

Also, every single deck thread you make goes "I am bored so I made this" so apparently you only play yugioh when you are bored. I'm not sure why you are trying to appear cool online but rest assured I will duel you for your soul anytime.

Secondly, equip spells are just fundamentally flawed and outdated. Decks we make for fun are aren't allowed to be plumty decks, just not as fast or overwhelming as powercreepyugioooh.deks. You are retarded if you think something based on equip spells is viable.

Edited by bherrell2, 06 January 2012 - 02:23 PM.

[Khaotic Angel]

bherrell2, on 06 January 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

I just didn't think the topic deserved a serious response.

Also, every single deck thread you make goes "I am bored so I made this" so apparently you only play yugioh when you are bored. I'm not sure why you are trying to appear cool online but rest assured I will duel you for your soul anytime.

Secondly, equip spells are just fundamentally flawed and outdated. Decks we make for fun are aren't allowed to be plumty decks, just not as fast or overwhelming as powercreepyugioooh.deks. You are retarded if you think something based on equip spells is viable.

You are looking at it wrong. I'm not looking at it to be a viable meta deck Bryan. Meta decks are what they are. But this project isn't about making it a viable deck. Just a fun deck. The core to some of the best duels you will have ever have is with dumb and outdated. So why not try something random. That's right you can't. You won't make anything and try it unless it has a viable strategy. This was a random idea I had when I was bored. not when I was playing or anything. I set time out of my week to play online. Also never said I was looking for a viable option, just something to troll with. So either way. Both of out logics are flawed. Making flawed decks are fun.

Edit=Maybe I should the title then. Also secondly Bryan. I don't post decks much anymore. SO how can I put I'm bored alot into every single deck thread I make. Cause I really don't.

Edited by Khaotic Angel, 06 January 2012 - 06:36 PM.

[bherrell2]

Khaotic Angel, on 06 January 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

You are looking at it wrong. I'm not looking at it to be a viable meta deck Bryan. Meta decks are what they are. But this project isn't about making it a viable deck. Just a fun deck. The core to some of the best duels you will have ever have is with dumb and outdated. So why not try something random. That's right you can't. You won't make anything and try it unless it has a viable strategy. This was a random idea I had when I was bored. not when I was playing or anything. I set time out of my week to play online. Also never said I was looking for a viable option, just something to troll with. So either way. Both of out logics are flawed. Making flawed decks are fun.

Edit=Maybe I should the title then. Also secondly Bryan. I don't post decks much anymore. SO how can I put I'm bored alot into every single deck thread I make. Cause I really don't.

I am not talking about viable meta decks but rather just decks with ways to create advantage and play an actual game of yugioh. I am not sure if you knew this or not but summoning Maha and equipping 3 equip spells isn't any different than starting with 30 cards in your hand 28 of which are Blue Eyes White Dragons and summoning them all.

I mean with this Maha Vailo "deck" you know if you can win or auto lose just by looking at your hand, there is no strategy or even practice in executing the deck. These aren't remotely fun decks to play. Unless you consider looking autistic and losing 98% of your duels to bad players to be satisfying and fun, then this is a waste of time and intellectual space. Why are you setting time aside each week to make troll decks? Why are you warring on Duelistgroundz, posting on ETC, or signing onto aim as well? It seems you are purposely ignoring the entire point of playing yugioh in favor of effortlessly just going through the motions.

The way I approach fun decks is I disregard that anything Tier 1 exists, which you did, in addition to disregarding the basis of a yugioh duel. Even in 2005 or whatever duels weren't brainless displays of playing plumty cards with 5 second turns. There is no excuse to literally put 40 random cards together that create no realistic win condition and trying to type theory-oh about it, and you won't have fun playing it either (unless you are of the previously mentioned autistic type). I mean grape if my standards get that low why would I care to acknowledge the most basic rules like starting with 5 cards? At this point I'll just start by summoning Pikachu and playing Thunder Stone.

There are hundreds of quality, fun, and unique decks to play. I personally have made around 200 different decks on DN but unfortunately avoiding IP-bans and what not reduces your patience to remake decks you had previously. Sometimes I will play traditional or older formats to have extra "fun".

To summarize my previous points, think of creating new decks as having 3 different levels of use.

1 - This being you would play it in a big event, and can beat the Tier 1 decks. You have tested extensively and each card matters significantly.
2 - Number 2 being you would play the deck but mainly at locals or with your friends. You tend to disregard people throwing competitive-orientated insults at you because you aren't taking the game seriously enough to manifest actual thought processes. A lot of the time I am like this online but irl these people are usually dumb (in general) or play for nostalgia. I respect anyone who plays at this level if they aren't retarded in general and humble.
3 - Have you ever been to a tournament? Did you know card sleeves exist? This is the market Konami appeals to but unfortunately 9 year olds don't run markets on their own. You have no understanding of card advantage, the concept that you could be "making the wrong move", making reads, and sometimes the actual mechanics. I don't care to talk to these people besides rare friendly notions because we aren't playing the same game, they are just a random bystander on the streets.

You can't purposely be ignorant and expect people to respect you in this game. Jeff's article might be something to read. You should realize you have beaten good players before, can spend the slight amount of virtual effort, and your insight on this game is valuable when you want it to be. If you want to trash everything you have learned and grown from to play Maha Vailo decks, at least don't poison the rest of us who are trying to be at least a tad constructive in our time spent on yugioh. It seems you spend time playing yugioh regardless, post on forums, sign on aim regardless, so I am not quite sure why you want to fake blowing the game off to be "cool". If you want to stop listening to people like me post their garbage sentences of yugioh penis then just become the casual Number 2 player, and you will have more fun you would ever have being an autistic 10 year old. You aren't that retarded and understand the difference between Maha Vailo and something like Crystal Beasts, Morphtronics, or Gigavise.

Also I am going to be technical orangegot and remind you can't abuse plumty cards without being physical. There is no potential to abuse certain cards and that line is very obese. I am also not sure why it would be fun to open 5 equip cards then go YESSS I RIPPED MAHO! only to grunt at one of the opponent's 17 outs. I didn't play in whatever cock day this card was apparently used, but I doubt it had decks dedicated to it running around 10 equips. If people couldn't abuse it back then you certainly can't now. Lastly, note that the concept "troll deck" refers to a deck with a win condition, an alternative one, effectively using odd cards in unison to do something otherwise not possible. Examples of this would be Kuriboh + Multiply + Law of the Normal,Defense Damage, Exodia, Final Countdown, and other odd decks I don't care to remember.

[Nomad]

Well that ^, or maybe you could still focus on an equip related strategy (aka, take advantage of the attachment mechanic)... but using them on monsters that actually do more than a 1550 normal monster. Like, I still use a lot of older cards & ideas too, but there's still always the element of using them for the right reasons as well, those being with the intent of being effective. There's been a lot of topics about this (at least 2 of which I started which is why they're fresh to me), but I still think we can abuse Maha Vailo. Just... not in the physical sense, and I'll explain what I'm getting at below.

For example, and although it's not technically an equip spell card (it's a trap that you equip when it resolves), Horn of the Phantom Beast comes to mind right away as something that's arguably very good at doing what it does, and that's functioning as a somewhat permanent boost to the monster. You're getting the immediate payoff, and then it maintains the presence until something else gets rid of it. In that respect, it's got something over cards like Shrink, and that's what I see (symbolically) when I look at Maha Vailo.

[RareCardHunter]

Naturia Fruitfly!

[Mad Hatter]

Why not try running Mythical Beast Cerberus then? It has synergy with Maha as a Spellcaster and has fun OTK potential.

[4gotmyotherpw]

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Shapesnatch!?

[Vice]

While it is just something fun to play, you could probably tech him in Vylons with Collected Power. Also, if you want to use anything like that use with Armed Samurai - Ben Kei.

[Love. Hate. Cherish.]

Khaotic Angel, on 06 January 2012 - 10:03 AM, said:

Abusing one card

Tour Guide... wait

[Khaotic Angel]

Love. Hate. Cherish., on 08 January 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

Tour Guide... wait

Lol. Right.