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#1 Ira Aeterna

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 11:00 PM

I'll trade someone my Grandsoil Scraps decklist for a ;

Fire Fist Decklist
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Flamvell / Lavalval / Fire King Shooting Quasar Decklist


Just post em here. I wanna troll with Shooting Quasar, just make it a good list, I'll tweak it. I just don't know where to start and keep ending up with 50,000 cards. The Grandsoil list is like, Regionals-winner-worthy, so.

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#2 Vanilla Ice

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:26 AM

3 Dark Flame Star - Yuushi
3 Minute Flame Star - Ryuushishin
3 Brave Flame Star - Enshou
3 Majestic Flame Star - Suneirin

3 Mystical Space Typhoon
3 Flame Dance Tenki
2 Pot of Duality
1 Flame Dance Tensu
1 Monster Reborn
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole

3 Flame Dance Tensen
2 Flame Dance Tenken
2 Horn of the Phantom Beast
2 Starlight Road
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Compulsory Evacuation Device

3 Dark Flame Star - Yuushi
3 Minute Flame Star - Ryuushishin
3 Brave Flame Star - Enshou
1 Majestic Flame Star - Suneirin
2 Maxx C
2 Effect Veiler

3 Mystical Space Typhoon
3 Flame Dance Tenki
3 Forbidden Lance
2 Pot of Duality
1 Flame Dance Tensu
1 Monster Reborn
1 Book of Moon
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm

3 Flame Dance Tensen
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Flame Dance Tensen

I have 2 builds. The first one relies a lot on backrow. 2 starlight, 2 horn, and seeing how the deck utilizes a lot of continuous s/t, it is just natural you want to protect your backrow from heavy. You know how this deck rolls: duck under a lot of backrows while capitalizing from successful Enshou/Yuushi play.

The later one is less dependant on backrow: thus Veiler and Maxx C. It relies more on resolving Yuushi/Enshou's effect to gain advantage. It's more of a field control deck. Thus the triple lance. Well kind of like GB, you want to make sure your GBs score a direct hit. So is the case with this build.

Now, I'd be interested to see the scrap build. I rarely go to local tourney though, mostly I just take my nephew there. But he's in love with Evols currently, so... But still, I often use scrap on DN. I might want to compare build.

#3 Ira Aeterna

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:30 AM

That isn't english names

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:44 AM

That isn't english names

http://i.imgur.com/eZQbo.png


My bad, but I last accessed DN like a month or so ago. But then again:

Dark Flame Star Yuushi is Fire Fist Bear.
Brave Flame Star Enshou is Fire Fist Ape (I forgot, go check the one with 1600 atk aside from Bear)
Minute Flame Star Ryuushishin is Fire Fist Dragon
Majestic Flame Star Suneirin is Snake.

I don't know about the spell/trap. I'm typing this from phone, solely based on my memory.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:46 AM

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:39 PM

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3 fire king avatar yashka
1 fire king high avatar grunix
3 flamvell firedog
1 flamvell magician
3 haze-beast cerrebrus
3 haze-beast peryton
3 haze beast sphinx

1 heavy storm
1 dark hole
1 monster reborn
3 rekindling
3 forbidden lance
3 haze pillar

3 horn of the phanton beast
2 mirror force
2 safe zone
1 solemn judgment
2 solemn warning
1 starlight road
3 haze glory

There are 11 rekindling targets. This is a more of a aggro type of deck build I made. Took me a while to make it, should give you more options to add besides the ones that have been posted.

Extra:
2 utopia
2 photon strike bouncer
2 roach
2 fire leader of the first tiger
2 basilicok
2 stardust dragon
1 maestroke djinn
2 scrap dragon

side board:
3 macro
2 soul reelase
2 necrovalley
2 posionous wind
2 mystical space typhoon
3 skill drain

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#7 Ira Aeterna

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:27 PM

Is there a way to see who left reputation? Cuz I'd love to ask the numbnuts just why he negged a goddamned question.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:48 PM

I did it.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:50 PM

I remember when I was 12.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:58 PM

Is there a way to see who left reputation? Cuz I'd love to ask the numbnuts just why he negged a goddamned question.


Click the number. Everyone's names come up.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:02 PM

I forgot the haze support cards. The deck theme is new and it is underrated.


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#12 Ira Aeterna

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:00 AM

What skin are you on? It isn't clickable for me.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:03 AM

What skin are you on? It isn't clickable for me.


Orange.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:04 AM

I am on the one called orange, when you click the theme it has mobile, deviant, buelletin, desert, orange. It's the default one if it is not the theme is orange. I never changed the theme.


Anyways, I tested the deck and the only thing I am not liking is that sometimes it is too dependant on the haze cards, and rekindling can be inactive if you dont get fire dog or cerebrus's effect or if the haze magic and trap are not in your hands. You need to play haze cerebrus if you draw into rekindling. I'm thinking it's a problem with the deck type, since you need to dump a lot of fire mosnters fast. I hate depending on flamvell firedog too, since that can can get destoyed in battle. Let me know if you get any ideas. There's some more support out there for fire. I didnt put in the card that special summons fires since that can be a minus one (not the rekindling card). I tried to put lavalvals, but that was way too hard. I figure I'd do something aggro, and if I'd change things around I'd take out pryton, and add some card troopers/anything that mills and a different cerebrus. The deck has problems imo, and maybe a pure one isnt much better. Plus you need experience running Haze but I did get a win versus in a versus match. In a deck like this you can't even run some cards that are even good. I like mirror force but sometimes I wished I didn't have it around.

Photon stike bouncer though is the best thing you can do with the deck though.

Haze spells and magics is such a bad draw it is not even funny. So maybe tweaking that could make it better.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:11 AM

I use Orange and that doesn't work for me......

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:00 PM

Mods dont have the right because it shouldnt matter to them.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:27 PM

That makes no sense.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:37 PM

3 fire king avatar yashka
1 fire king high avatar grunix
3 flamvell firedog
1 flamvell magician
3 haze-beast cerrebrus
3 haze-beast peryton
3 haze beast sphinx

1 heavy storm
1 dark hole
1 monster reborn
3 rekindling
3 forbidden lance
3 haze pillar

3 horn of the phanton beast
2 mirror force
2 safe zone
1 solemn judgment
2 solemn warning
1 starlight road
3 haze glory

There are 11 rekindling targets. This is a more of a aggro type of deck build I made. Took me a while to make it, should give you more options to add besides the ones that have been posted.

Extra:
2 utopia
2 photon strike bouncer
2 roach
2 fire leader of the first tiger
2 basilicok
2 stardust dragon
1 maestroke djinn
2 scrap dragon

side board:
3 macro
2 soul reelase
2 necrovalley
2 posionous wind
2 mystical space typhoon
3 skill drain

It is the same list. But it needs some adjustments. We can keep posting our lists here. My complaints are these after playing this:



Anyways, I tested the deck and the only thing I am not liking is that sometimes it is too dependant on the haze cards, and rekindling can be inactive if you dont get fire dog or cerebrus's effect or if the haze magic and trap are not in your hands. You need to play haze cerebrus if you draw into rekindling. I'm thinking it's a problem with the deck type, since you need to dump a lot of fire mosnters fast. I hate depending on flamvell firedog too, since that can can get destoyed in battle. Let me know if you get any ideas. There's some more support out there for fire. I didnt put in the card that special summons fires since that can be a minus one (not the rekindling card). I tried to put lavalvals, but that was way too hard. I figure I'd do something aggro, and if I'd change things around I'd take out pryton, and add some card troopers/anything that mills and a different cerebrus. The deck has problems imo, and maybe a pure one isnt much better. Plus you need experience running Haze but I did get a win versus in a versus match. In a deck like this you can't even run some cards that are even good. I like mirror force but sometimes I wished I didn't have it around.

Photon stike bouncer though is the best thing you can do with the deck though.

Haze spells and magics is such a bad draw it is not even funny. So maybe tweaking that could make it better.



Sorry everyone, I had no idea how to fix the picture. The deck build is open to fixes. That picture was put up at the last second and it didn't work.

It is similar to Ginzo's build in a way. Always got to netdeck some ideas.

Edited by thewriterperson, 30 November 2012 - 02:39 PM.


#19 Ira Aeterna

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:23 PM

Mods dont have the right because it shouldnt matter to them.


I think you might actually be retarded.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 02:43 PM

I use Orange and that doesn't work for me......

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